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Originally Posted by truckdog62563
You two need to compare notes. Might be the same truck.

Owen - have you had a chance to run down the third F-3 M-H that you've mentioned that's up around Williston? IIRC you said it's the one with a fx'd front axle, but even so it'd be a great donor. Stu

I haven't had a chance to look for the third M-H. On my short list to do. I wonder if we are talking about the same F1?
 
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Originally Posted by CHUCK48-50
I thought I would answer a couple questions at once.
M-H always did their own steering ends in house. They bought pumpkins without tubes from Spicer, and installed their own, with their own ends.
NAPCO first offered kits for Fords in 1956. The earliest ones used a Chevrolet front axle, with 6 lug wheels. And no, they didn't bother with any kind of adapter to change the pattern for the rear. Some time in 1956 they switched to the Spicer 44. I'm sure these were completely built by Spicer. And they all used the model 23 transfer case.
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Great info !! Thanks: gonna copy and paste into my NAPCO file !!
 
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Originally Posted by thundersnow70
thanks for clearing up the MH front axle question Chuck. So harleyg, do you have six lug on the front and five lug on the back? Chuck, gonna send you a pm.
Uh...... I don't know ?! Had the front wheels off, but never even looked at the rears. It's over in my other shop: will go by today and find out ! This will be interesting !
 
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Chuck might want to comment, ...
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M-H always did their own steering ends in house. They bought pumpkins without tubes from Spicer, and installed their own, with their own ends. Chuck
Once again we benefit from your research. But you said Spicer, also from Timken? Thanks. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by thundersnow70
thanks for clearing up the MH front axle question Chuck. So harleyg, do you have six lug on the front and five lug on the back?

Went to the other shop today: FIVE lug, front & back !!
 
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You have the later, Spicer 44 axle. It was built for a Ford, so it has 5 lug wheels. If your truck was an earlier 1956, it would have had a 6 lug Chevrolet axle.
Stu,
Yes, your axles are Timken. 1/2 Tons were Spicer. This post is about an F-100, so that's what I was referring to.
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Chuck - I didn't say it well. I was asking if M-H also added the tubes and steering ends to the Timken cases used on the bigger models? Stu
 
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Originally Posted by CHUCK48-50
You have the later, Spicer 44 axle. It was built for a Ford, so it has 5 lug wheels. If your truck was an earlier 1956, it would have had a 6 lug Chevrolet axle.
Stu,
Yes, your axles are Timken. 1/2 Tons were Spicer. This post is about an F-100, so that's what I was referring to.
Chuck

Thanks: appreciate the info and your knowledge !!
 
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Originally Posted by truckdog62563
Chuck - I didn't say it well. I was asking if M-H also added the tubes and steering ends to the Timken cases used on the bigger models? Stu
Stu,
Yes, the bigger axles were assembled in house as well.
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Thanks Chuck. Stood to reason based on your first statement about the Spicers, but just wanted to be sure. Would have liked to have seen the machinery they used to (I assume cold) set the rivets in the joints where the axle tubes connect to the case halves. You told me once that you'd replaced a broken axle tube once, am I remembering right? Did you have to make a jig to reach inside for setting the rivets? Stu
 
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I just stuck a piece of round stock in (after putting rivets in all of the holes from the inside). I have rivet setting tools for my air hammer.
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Oh, that's straight forward. Thanks. Stu
 
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