should a stock 6.0 chirp the tires?
#16
IF the turbo behaved like it's SUPPOSED to, you wouldn't have to worry about power-sliding across an intersection, because boost would come up smoothly and predictably. That's the biggest problem. It's NOT predictable.
I'm basing my opinion on the fact that my daily driver is a Freightliner (see the avatar) with a turbo that's as big as a dinner plate. It has true turbo lag, but it's predictable and behaves the same way EVERY TIME. And yes, I can dump the throttle on it, and it behaves the same way, EVERY TIME. It DOES something when you ask it. It doesn't sit there for two full seconds, playing with itself, and then letting all hell break loose. (I've documented this behavior on the Ford.)
-blaine
I'm basing my opinion on the fact that my daily driver is a Freightliner (see the avatar) with a turbo that's as big as a dinner plate. It has true turbo lag, but it's predictable and behaves the same way EVERY TIME. And yes, I can dump the throttle on it, and it behaves the same way, EVERY TIME. It DOES something when you ask it. It doesn't sit there for two full seconds, playing with itself, and then letting all hell break loose. (I've documented this behavior on the Ford.)
-blaine
Minivan to a motorcycle.
#17
my 06 will do it stock. ESP after i do an injector flush from bg this think will light em up from a take off. of course its not instant but once the boost is there it will get alittle sideways. thats what i would do is go find a place that sells BG products and have them do an injector flush. brings back some mileage also and power and gets the fuel side of the injector nice and clean! but you also know its working when it starts to burn your eyeballs because of the chemicals its burning. they make some great products if you ask me!
#18
That freight shaker should be down around 20k-25k pounds. Also, the turbochargers are completely different between the two. If he's running a Cat under the hood, then they're some what similar (HUEI). But otherwise I agree, they're completely different animals.
#19
power braking
My 03 will not spin the tired even if I do power brake it and I have an SCT tuner on street mode. It will try as I let off the brake and start moving
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#20
My 04 XLT, Crew Cab, Long Bed, Duelly when new before Ford reprogrammed it the power was awesome. With my 14.000 + pound 5th wheel camper attached it would smoke all 4 rears with no problem. Since the program change it has a much milder launch. For some reason my rears wear faster than the fronts?
#21
power braking
My 04 XLT, Crew Cab, Long Bed, Duelly when new before Ford reprogrammed it the power was awesome. With my 14.000 + pound 5th wheel camper attached it would smoke all 4 rears with no problem. Since the program change it has a much milder launch. For some reason my rears wear faster than the fronts?
#23
my 06 Amarillo is stock..
and she'll smoke tires if I don't watch out..
however, I haven't yet stomped it to the floor...
have pushed hard and fast to the halfway point when I got cut-off AT an intersection from car in the left turn lane.
left him in a big cloud of smoked rubber and a little bit o' desiel smoke!!!
Chris
and she'll smoke tires if I don't watch out..
however, I haven't yet stomped it to the floor...
have pushed hard and fast to the halfway point when I got cut-off AT an intersection from car in the left turn lane.
left him in a big cloud of smoked rubber and a little bit o' desiel smoke!!!
Chris
#24
Interesting discussion. When I first got my truck and didn't really know the deal, I had been impressed with the acceleration a couple of times and made the mistake of trying to jump off a side street into heavy traffic in a questionably short space (oh yea, I got this!) and quickly learned that doing that from an idle was a bad move. I floored it and it literally crawled out in front of the oncoming car, my panic changed to relief for a millisecond as I saw the front of the oncoming car dip as he got on the binders hard in a valiant attempt to keep me from killing us, then a half second of relief as the truck began picking up, looking like I was going to be out of the way after all! Then from relief to concern as I had to lift off the throttle as the rear of my truck started to come around them panic again as getting off the power that quick upset the balance of the truck and it grabbed, slinging it back around the other way. Luckily, I'm familiar with this routine, got back in the power (I guess it happened so quick the turbo was still spooled up) and drove through it swerving a couple more times.
I've learned that driving this truck even Kinda hard takes some getting used to, mine can go from disappointment to panic in a heartbeat. It's fast, but even now I don't get it exactly right every time(not that I drive like this a lot ). I will say boosting up against the brakes -not for tire spin but just to get into the power and then lifting the brake and rolling into the throttle as the speed builds will almost allways chirp the tires on the first shift. Shifter in drive and hammer down it shifts too early, somehow tow/haul is better, manual shiftiing works best.
I've learned that driving this truck even Kinda hard takes some getting used to, mine can go from disappointment to panic in a heartbeat. It's fast, but even now I don't get it exactly right every time(not that I drive like this a lot ). I will say boosting up against the brakes -not for tire spin but just to get into the power and then lifting the brake and rolling into the throttle as the speed builds will almost allways chirp the tires on the first shift. Shifter in drive and hammer down it shifts too early, somehow tow/haul is better, manual shiftiing works best.
#25
#26
As for running stock, It should easily powerbrake a burnout.
Josh
#27
My 04 XLT, Crew Cab, Long Bed, Duelly when new before Ford reprogrammed it the power was awesome. With my 14.000 + pound 5th wheel camper attached it would smoke all 4 rears with no problem. Since the program change it has a much milder launch. For some reason my rears wear faster than the fronts?
I have a hard time buying the idea of a stock 6.0 with a 14K trailer blowing off the tires on dry pavement...
#28
Rev limiter is 600 RPM or so before you have to worry about damage.
#29
I will add, assuming the turbo vanes are good, maybe you should check into a FICM tune. (Ed in my case) That woke mine up more than any anything I have done. Especially the turbo lag. That said, the biggest annoyance is that floored quickly because I want it now it sure falls flat like other have said. Being a heavy DRW with all the add-ons, wet roads are surprising sometimes.
#30