1990 F150 5.8 no start after new cylinder heads
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1990 F150 5.8 no start after new cylinder heads
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I recently swapped some new reman heads into my 1990 5.8, after carefully reassembling everything the engine cranks but will not start. Here is what I have done so far.
Checked fuel pressure at rail w/test gage, 42 PSI with eec test pins 2 & 6 jumped
Checked for spark using spark tester, I have spark from coil and at the plugs
Reseated and refangled the dizzy every which way I can think of, cranked #1 to tdc and aligned dizzy accordingly, no dice, turned 180 degrees, no dice. I have re-done this process at least 10 times thinking I have a timing issue.
Checked over vacuum hoses for disconnections/breaks, found none.
Checked grounds, even added a new chassis ground, still no luck.
Checked for gas in vacuum line of FPR, no gas coming out.
When I changed the heads I changed the injectors to reman ones too, the original injectors were part #E5TE-B1B and the new ones I got off ebay are #F0TE-D1A, as far as I can tell these are both 19lb injectors for the 5.8, they also look identical.
This vehicle drove into my garage under its own power before disassembly, and was running ok, just spewing white coolant smoke. Could my TFI have taken a crap when removing the distributor or something? Could the PO have put in a funky cam that uses a different firing order? I am at the end of my rope here, its been months trying to figure this out. Any help would be much appreciated.
I recently swapped some new reman heads into my 1990 5.8, after carefully reassembling everything the engine cranks but will not start. Here is what I have done so far.
Checked fuel pressure at rail w/test gage, 42 PSI with eec test pins 2 & 6 jumped
Checked for spark using spark tester, I have spark from coil and at the plugs
Reseated and refangled the dizzy every which way I can think of, cranked #1 to tdc and aligned dizzy accordingly, no dice, turned 180 degrees, no dice. I have re-done this process at least 10 times thinking I have a timing issue.
Checked over vacuum hoses for disconnections/breaks, found none.
Checked grounds, even added a new chassis ground, still no luck.
Checked for gas in vacuum line of FPR, no gas coming out.
When I changed the heads I changed the injectors to reman ones too, the original injectors were part #E5TE-B1B and the new ones I got off ebay are #F0TE-D1A, as far as I can tell these are both 19lb injectors for the 5.8, they also look identical.
This vehicle drove into my garage under its own power before disassembly, and was running ok, just spewing white coolant smoke. Could my TFI have taken a crap when removing the distributor or something? Could the PO have put in a funky cam that uses a different firing order? I am at the end of my rope here, its been months trying to figure this out. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Have you looked for any stored codes, or used a noid set to check electrical impulses from the wiring harness to the fuel injectors. I'm sure that your sick of the timing by now, but still suspect though, so here is a link for a guide:
Ford Fuel Injection » Setting the timing
Ford Fuel Injection » Setting the timing
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Are you absolutely sure you have the plug wires routed and connected properly? The fact that you are getting an occasional pop or backfire suggests you are close, so check your work against the diagram below and try advancing the distributor(turn it clockwise) from 0 timing until you either run out of room(the TFI hits the thermostat housing).. which means you're 180 deg off, or the engine starts.
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Conanski, I managed to get it to start today with the TFI pressed against the thermostat housing, it ran, with my foot on the throttle for a few seconds then died. Does this mean I am 180 off? If so then I should just pull out the dizzy and turn the rotor so it seats 180 opposite its previous location, correct?
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Actually that means the distributor is 1 tooth off so carefully pull it out while holding the rotor so that it doesn't turn relative to the base(note you will have to turn the whole distributor instead to get it out) and then reinsert it 1 tooth counter clockwise from that point. If you do it right the TFI module should now have clearance to move back towards the thermostat housing again.
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Conanski, you are a Ford god amongst Ford men. That did it, it runs like new now! I was freaking out thinking I got a bad set of heads or did something wrong in the install. Your posts have helped me out many a time, but this one really got me out of a bind. I'll be able to go to work today! Many thanks!
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Conanski, you are a Ford god amongst Ford men. That did it, it runs like new now! I was freaking out thinking I got a bad set of heads or did something wrong in the install. Your posts have helped me out many a time, but this one really got me out of a bind. I'll be able to go to work today! Many thanks!
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