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Old 03-01-2011, 10:33 PM
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Coil sprung dana 44 into 86 F250???

I have an 86 f250. The ttb front end is pretty much toast, and I am considering a SAS. I don't have much money, so I am trying to find alternatives to a dana 60. I allready know 3/4 ton dana 44's from highboys and 77.5-79 wont fit because of the spring perches. So, I am wondering, if I was to put rip out all of my front suspension and start over by bolting in coil buckets and radius arm mounts onto my frame, how hard would it be to stick a coil sprung dana 44 in there out of a 70's f150??? I would also put 8 lug hubs on it so it matched my rearend....
 
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a solid d44 for leafs will work, you just have move the perches out. you have it wrong man. later model d60's won't go into 79 and older without outboading the springs.
 
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F150 d44 has smaller axle tubes as well, so it's not quite as sturdy and prolly not something you'd want to use for much in the way of a working rig. But ( having two D60's lol) I don't think d44's suck as bad as everyone says they do. I'd say find a 78-79 d44 and reuse or buy new perches ($12.99 @ jegs) add a panhard bar, and go!!
 
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i say do as small of a shackle reversal in front as you can while you do it as it will save you from having to worry about a track/panhard bar and will level out the old *** saggy spings in front.

blu, the way my money situation is looking i'll end up testing out my 8 lug d44 for a bit once my rig is together. have some bills that need paid now so the geared tons i was gonna buy won't happen for a bit. still gonna get the 40's. i hate money
i kept a ttb d44 alive for years with more power and 38's so i think i'll be ok, at least i hope.....
 
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if you are going to put a 44 in it, look for one out of a 78 or 79. that will be a leaf spring axle set up for the 36 inch wide frame.
 
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blu, the way my money situation is looking i'll end up testing out my 8 lug d44 for a bit once my rig is together. have some bills that need paid now so the geared tons i was gonna buy won't happen for a bit. still gonna get the 40's. i hate money
i kept a ttb d44 alive for years with more power and 38's so i think i'll be ok, at least i hope.....
no fear, feller. The truck in my avatar pic had 351M/np435/np205/D44/D60/4.10's on 17/40 gumbos. It lasted fifteen years and four owners before I got it. I actually blew the drivers side outer (with a sick and dying 351m) BUT it needed u-joints and I'd just replaced the lockout hubs so I wasn't surprised when it happened.
I myself am going to baby a D44 and 8.8 under my truck with (hopefully) an 88 efi 460 (if I eff it up, it's gettin dove heads off the 69 in the corner) and those 38's I mentioned in every other thread I've posted in lately
 
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blu, the way my money situation is looking i'll end up testing out my 8 lug d44 for a bit once my rig is together. have some bills that need paid now so the geared tons i was gonna buy won't happen for a bit. still gonna get the 40's. i hate money
i kept a ttb d44 alive for years with more power and 38's so i think i'll be ok, at least i hope.....
no fear, feller. The truck in my avatar pic had 351M/np435/np205/D44/D60/4.10's on 17/40 gumbos. It lasted fifteen years and four owners before I got it. I actually blew the drivers side outer (with a sick and dying 351m) BUT it needed u-joints and I'd just replaced the lockout hubs so I wasn't surprised when it happened.
I myself am going to baby a D44 and 8.8 under my truck with (hopefully) an 88 efi 460 (if I eff it up, it's gettin dove heads off the 69 in the corner) and those 38's I mentioned in every other thread I've posted in lately
 
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the po of my 85 put a dana 44 under it here are some picks





 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
if you are going to put a 44 in it, look for one out of a 78 or 79. that will be a leaf spring axle set up for the 36 inch wide frame.
tom, all of the 79 and older front leaf axles have 32.5'' center to center pins, including supercab f150 4x4's, but they have enough tube to move the mounts out to the 36.5'' that the 80 and up have. 85.5 and up d60's have the driverside perch cast half into the pumpkin and have damn near no short side tube to do anything with, and just so newbs know there were no 80-85 d60's. f250 and 350's were ttbs then.

p.s. joe, put some shoes on hillbilly.
 
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good info Dan.
i never knew that, and had to check my 78 and 79.
sure as sheite, you are rite.
32.5 pin to pin front, and 36.5 pin to pin rear. that is so screwed up.
i always thought the 78-79 was the same as the newer trucks, 36.5 pin to pin front and back.
 
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i is good info encapsulated when sober
 

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p.s. joe, put some shoes on hillbilly.

im trying to give chetto a run for his money
 
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Originally Posted by fatdan460
a solid d44 for leafs will work, you just have move the perches out. you have it wrong man. later model d60's won't go into 79 and older without outboading the springs.
This doesn't make sense. A "later" d60 (85.5-96/7) will bolt right in, wont it?


So all I have to do is get a 77.5-79 f250 d44, and move the perches out to 36.5, and she'll bolt in??? Will the "lowboy" f250's have 3" wide front springs??? and thanks for the help guys.
 
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This doesn't make sense. A "later" d60 (85.5-96/7) will bolt right in, wont it?


So all I have to do is get a 77.5-79 f250 d44, and move the perches out to 36.5, and she'll bolt in??? Will the "lowboy" f250's have 3" wide front springs??? and thanks for the help guys.
EDIT: nevermind, i got confused and thought later meant earlier or something.
 
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p.s. cut off the old perches and buy a new set from someone like ruffstuff or another fab part shop that has the proper width perch for your springs.
 


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