Beat me to it Tuffy! Repack both bearings, & get a new seal, the old one won't fit tight enough anymore probably . Hopefully the bearing isn't galled to the spindle.

 

I would replace the seal and maybe the bearing. Them look rough.

 

how do i get the bearing off? just pull? and how much does a grease seal cost?

 

The seal is $2-$6

this might help

 

i think the grease seal is around 4 buck or so, the bearings are around 20 a piece. replace the rotor on the hub (it is pressed on), repack the rear bearing (the original or replacement) drop it into the race (after cleaning and inspecting for pits or scores) then press on the grease seal to the hub (light tabs with a hammer will work kitty, cornering as you go untill its seated) slide onto the cleaned, inspected and lightly greased spindle.the repack the outer( original or replacement) bearing, set it into the hub, then the first locking nut (torqued to 50 ft pounds i belive) wile spinning the hub to make sure the bearings are seated.then locking washer followed buy the outer locking nut. you should know the rest.

 

There is your problem. That seal and bearing should have slid off the spindle with the hub. You need to pry, tap, what ever you can to get that bearing off the spindle. Then inspect EVERYTHING for damage.

Drive your wheel studs out to get the old rotor off the hub, replace the rotor and drive the studs back in to lock the rotor to the hub,

Then yes. repack the rear bearing ( if being reused ) if new bearing be sure to pack it well. Place the rear bearing in the rear race and install a new rear seal.

clean and repack the front bearing, I wrap the bearing in a CLEAN shop rag until I am ready for it. Slide the hub assembly on the spindle and install the front bearing. Then install your locking nuts/s and outer hub.

That rear bearing and spindle look pretty bad. Be sure to clean everything up very well and inspect for damage!

 

thanks everyone. i bought some grease and a seal. ill try getting the bearing off tomorrow and let you know whats happening.
i just don't know if i can maybe hit the bearing with a hammer. however that sounds like not the greatest idea so ill try just pulling on it first.

 

hi all,

What's wrong with using a bearing puller to get the bearing off? Is it hard to come off because the spindles bent out of shape? While it's all apart it will only cost a few$$$ to replace bearings, seals and the spindle bearing and seals as well. Worth the trouble & $ in my eyes.

cheers

 

No you don't want to hit it with a hammer. Try getting behind it with a big screw driver, or smaller pry bar. The spindle is harden steel however you can still damage it. Hitting bearings with a hammer is just never a good idea. Maybe see if you can get behind the bearing with a punch and TAP it off with a punch and small hammer.

First I would clean off the spindle in front of the bearing and see if its all pitted up and damaged. If you damaged the spindle there is really no point in pulling that bearing and seal off. Just unbolt the spindle, got get the loan a tool spindle puller ( looks like a slide hammer ) and pop that spindle off and call a Junk yard for a replacement spindle.

You might be ok. It just looks as there is a lot of rust in there. I keep on stressing you need to look at the bearings and races for damage as with all that rust and mess in there ... there is a good chance you have more problems then you think.

If your close to me let me know I would be happy to stop in and give you a hand. Working in the snow sucks ... even sucks more when your kind of flying blind.

 

thanks.
im still having trouble getting the bearing off. should i try getting all the grease out manually like poking in there with tools and non grease dish soap or what?
does anyone know a good way to get grease like this off of a bearing or a spindle or other parts which i will eventually have to clean?

 

The grease in the bearing should has nothing to do with the bearing coming off.
I find brake clean cleans wheel bearings the best. dish soap and water could cause rust if not dried right away.

 

If that is rust not dirty grease, looks like rust, you're wasting your time trying to get the bearing off.

Knock that spindle off and get a replacement.

No need to be kind to it, if you don't have a puller, can't get one, get a big hammer.

Knock the spindle to one side, when the gap between it and the knuckle opens slightly tap a screwdriver into that gap. Now knock the spindle the other way, toward the screw driver, will produce a larger gap on the other side, (air chisel handy here) tap a screw driver in that gap now knock spindle toward it. Keep working it back and forth larger gap/thicker screw driver until the spindle is free of the knuckle.

Hardest part will be getting the spindle to move to start with, after that it will come easier.

Don't hit the very end of the spindle, stay back from the very end.
A 16oz claw hammer ain't gonna get it either, use a big heavy hammer using solid blows.

The spindle is trash, damage it all you want but don't damage the axle stub shaft inside it.

Obviously a spindle puller is easier/preferred/ideal but don't always have that option.

Oh and if the inner spindle bearing is as rusty as the rest of it looks to be, looks like that hub has been under water many times with bad seals,
you will likely need to replace the axle stub shaft too. You know once you get it off.

 

here is the race of the bearing which i need to separate from the spindle




here is the spindle part the its stuck to




here is the point in between which i am trying to get something in between to separate it.




i dont know if this is 100% correct but this is my guess

does anyone know what could be causing this to stick?
or a solution to get it off?
*remember i dont really have grip because i need to get the race off, not just the bearing which coud break!!!*

 

You might be able to save the spindle but that bearing is toast, bearings are cheap its not worth the time spent.

If you want to try and save that rusty crusty spindle first you'll need to get that bearing off out of the way. Its rusted to the spindle, its not going to slide off and if you pry between it and the spindle you'll bugger it up where the seal rides further damaging the spindle.

Tear the roller retainer cage off so the rollers are off out of the way. Now split the inner raceway, its hardened so it will snap rather then cut.

Take a chisel and put it long way IE in line with the spindle, smack it with a sluge hammer, couple few hard solid blows with a heavy hammer will cause the raceway to crack. Once it cracks it will be free of the spindle, least lot more then it is now. If need be use something to open the crack some so it will slide right off.

Once you get the dead bearing and seal off get some plumbers emery cloth, use it to sand all the rust and scale off until the spindle is shiny clean again. Pay particular attention to the areas where the seal and wheel bearings reside on the spindle, the area between them doesn't really matter. Just clean that area to stop the rust Bearing locations should be clean, little pitting won't hurt anything. Seal area must be defect free.

Don't forget when you pick up new bearings get new raceways to put in the hub with them. Easy to change, use a suitable drift to knock the old raceways out, use the old raceway to knock the new raceways in. Visually verify they are fully seated.

 

Oh and you still need to get the spindle of, with all that water damage the inner spindle bearing has got to be just as rusty.

If its not already to late, the first couple odd times you use 4 wheel it will gall the heck out of the axle stub shaft rendering it useless and unrepairable. The inner spindle bearing doesn't use a inner raceway, its needle bearings ride directly on the stub shaft.