Unusual (industrial?) applications for commonly known engines.
#31
11-09-2010, 05:56 PM
Laughing Gas
#32
11-09-2010, 10:20 PM
I have spent a lot of time in Mexico, Baja California mostly and every year each city of any size has their version of the county fair that travels around just like our fairs do. They have rides too but there is usually no electricity so they use a variety of engines to power the rides. The merry-go-round had a 4 cylinder engine from a car and a three speed tranny with a drive shaft going across the ground under the deck of the M-G-R and connected to 1/2 of a car differential. The one axle of the diff went upwards and the brake drum had spoke like rods going down to the deck of the M-G-R.
The engine would run in the open with no guards and any kid could stick his hands into the fan or the hot exhaust header.
The farris wheel was the same affair only the tranny had a car rim attached to it and it acted as a pulley for a cable streched around the farris wheel.
Those people are masters of jury rigging.
The engine would run in the open with no guards and any kid could stick his hands into the fan or the hot exhaust header.
The farris wheel was the same affair only the tranny had a car rim attached to it and it acted as a pulley for a cable streched around the farris wheel.
Those people are masters of jury rigging.
#33
11-10-2010, 05:43 AM
I have seen all manner of automotive engines from all of the domestic mfgs. adapted for marine use, however.....there is 1 that eludes me: Listed as the 3.0 4cyl. by OMC and Mercruiser, who builds it? I heard once that it was a bored and stroked 2.5 "Iron duke" GM? It is being currently used in many of the smaller entry level I/O boats.
I did not know anyone built a inline 4cyl of this displacement......2.3/2.5 is big for a 4 banger, 3.0 is huge.......thats almost 200cu. inches!
I did not know anyone built a inline 4cyl of this displacement......2.3/2.5 is big for a 4 banger, 3.0 is huge.......thats almost 200cu. inches!
#34
11-10-2010, 09:47 AM
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I have seen all manner of automotive engines from all of the domestic mfgs. adapted for marine use, however.....there is 1 that eludes me: Listed as the 3.0 4cyl. by OMC and Mercruiser, who builds it? I heard once that it was a bored and stroked 2.5 "Iron duke" GM? It is being currently used in many of the smaller entry level I/O boats.
I did not know anyone built a inline 4cyl of this displacement......2.3/2.5 is big for a 4 banger, 3.0 is huge.......thats almost 200cu. inches!
I did not know anyone built a inline 4cyl of this displacement......2.3/2.5 is big for a 4 banger, 3.0 is huge.......thats almost 200cu. inches!
It appears to be a dedicated marine/industrial engine based on the last generation Chevy straight six, certainly not the Iron Duke. I suppose it's automotive heritage would be the 1962 Chevy-II 153ci I-4.
#35
11-10-2010, 10:38 AM
^^^ Thanks for the link. Looks like a stout engine, well suited to the rigors of marine use.
From cruising craigslist and some boat forums, it looks like the 305/350 Chevy do not fare well in boats. Multitudes of ads for, "boat for sale, cracked block last winter, 350 Chev" I did not see one cracked block noted for Ford 302/351!......Of course, If the owners had maintained and winterized their boat before the big freeze, their 350 chevy would not have a cracked block.
From cruising craigslist and some boat forums, it looks like the 305/350 Chevy do not fare well in boats. Multitudes of ads for, "boat for sale, cracked block last winter, 350 Chev" I did not see one cracked block noted for Ford 302/351!......Of course, If the owners had maintained and winterized their boat before the big freeze, their 350 chevy would not have a cracked block.
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11-10-2010, 07:13 PM
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I've seen one of those Fordson V8 conversions in person. I believe there was a similar kit offered for the 8N by the same company. They are very cool!
I believe you're mistaken about the Iron Duke, though. The early 60s Poncho 4 cyl was literally a Pontiac V8 sliced down the middle. (called the Trophy 4, as I've now found out) From the passenger side of the car it looked just like a V-8 motor. The Iron Duke was designed by Pontiac, but not until the late 70s.
Also, the first Buick V6 was derived from the Buick 215 Aluminum V8 in. The rest of the Buick V8s came after the V6, though.
Speaking of marine applications, many Mercruiser engines were basically Chevy I-6s. I once heard a story (perhaps urban legend), of a local fellow who scavenged one from a damaged boat, stripped off the external marine accessories and installed it in a Chevy Nova. All went well until he discovered that it was a left hand (reverse) rotating engine.
How could I have forgotten the Hemi powered Victory Siren?? Those things are awesome! There are a few good You Tube videos of the Victory Siren. Here's one: YouTube - 1952 Air Raid Siren,
I believe you're mistaken about the Iron Duke, though. The early 60s Poncho 4 cyl was literally a Pontiac V8 sliced down the middle. (called the Trophy 4, as I've now found out) From the passenger side of the car it looked just like a V-8 motor. The Iron Duke was designed by Pontiac, but not until the late 70s.
Also, the first Buick V6 was derived from the Buick 215 Aluminum V8 in. The rest of the Buick V8s came after the V6, though.
Speaking of marine applications, many Mercruiser engines were basically Chevy I-6s. I once heard a story (perhaps urban legend), of a local fellow who scavenged one from a damaged boat, stripped off the external marine accessories and installed it in a Chevy Nova. All went well until he discovered that it was a left hand (reverse) rotating engine.
How could I have forgotten the Hemi powered Victory Siren?? Those things are awesome! There are a few good You Tube videos of the Victory Siren. Here's one: YouTube - 1952 Air Raid Siren,
#38
11-11-2010, 01:12 PM
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I resemble that remark. WA contains plenty of people who dont know much about ice and snow (Seattle). California includes places like the Donner Pass that has more snow than anywhere in the lower 48. I'm at 6000ft in So Cal and we got at least 17 feet last season.
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11-11-2010, 01:43 PM
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11-16-2010, 10:05 PM
#42
11-16-2010, 11:22 PM
The boat had CA license stickers, CA plate on the trailer, and the guy said he forgot to drain the water for the winter. Not a knock against Californians, just a statement of fact.
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11-17-2010, 07:30 AM
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great little engine. a little underpowered at 52 hp, but it got 50+mpg.
only problem with it was it was an interference engine. if you did not do the timing belt every 50k miles like recomended, it would break and mash the valves into the pistons.
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11-19-2010, 07:19 PM
