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I have a 330 or 5.4L industrial motor. I am told it could have been original equipment for a 1974 F-600 Medium Duty Truck. I am struggling to even find gaskets like what is the correct oil pan gasket. It is a Windsor but cannot use typical 351 Windsor gaskets. So if anyone can suggest where to look for a source for parts for such an older engine I'd appreciate it. Also if I could get a serial number off the block maybe that would help but I cannot find one. thank you. The oil pan is a "rear sump" type. Two cork gaskets along the side rails, and two half circle rubber seals.
Mike, the FT engines are sort of uprated, low-speed, low-compression versions of the FEs that were used in cars & light trucks. The 359/361/389/391 FTs have the same basic block as the FE, but the heads and manifolds do not interchange as individual parts (they do swap as an assy) so you can't eg install a FE exhaust manifold on an FT head, and while an FE manifold will bolt to an FT head, the exhaust crossover doesn't line up. The distributors will not interchange. The timing covers are different because the truck uses the cover as an engine mount, unlike cars & light trucks.
The 330 came in two distinct flavors: medium duty and heavy duty (M/D and H/D). The M/D version is more like the light duty truck, with the car-style water pump and a distributor that will interchange, and a cast crankshaft rather than the forged one in all the other FTs. The H/D got better valves, forged crank.
(anyone: pls correct any of the above I got wrong)
So, when you have a "330" you'll eventually need to know which one it is. But not for the oil pan gasket.
Two cork gaskets along the side rails, and two half circle rubber seals.
It’s not a FE/FT engine if it used those half round rubber end seals, Because FE/FT engines have extended skirts the oil pan gaskets are flat all the way around
330 was a FE/FT engine and in most industrial apps it used the MD trucks flat bottom 9 qrt oil pan, it was rear pick up but one wouldn’t know it until they removed the pan
It would be best if you could post a photo of this engine so we could better identify it
If you actually do have a FE/FT engine getting a oil pan gaskets are is a simple as ordering one for a 60/70’s Ford pickup with 360/390 engine
It’s not a FE/FT engine if it used those half round rubber end seals, Because FE/FT engines have extended skirts the oil pan gaskets are flat all the way around
Ah, I missed that in his original post. Yeah, FE/FT pan gaskets are one-piece.
I removed the oil pan because water got in the oil. It entered from the air cleaner as the machine was left out in the rain. Anyway here it is and thanks for helping to ID it. I figured Ford V8 the parts would be as simple as it gets.
That Crosland 522 crosses to Wix 33166 with these applications, mostly diesel, but not all; for example, 1981 Volkswagen Caribe 1.8l is not a diesel. It's a filter, not specifically a diesel filter.
Wix's version is rated for 10um, which seems pretty good. Probably, the engineering team for the chipper decided to install this filter head for some reason what we'll never know, and now it looks as if it's been bypassed.
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The inline high-pressure filter that Ford installed on the frame rail of my Aerostars was termed a "lifetime" filter. There was no change interval, it was large enough that Ford figured the van would be dead before the filter would be filled with debris. I think they were pretty much right. By and large, fuel is clean, if you leave aside water contamination, and that filter (and the 522 above) look as if it could hold a cup of dirt just fine and still pass fuel.
Nothing like the dinky little fuel filters we got with carbureted engines of the 60s and earlier. With the advent of fuel injection and (in the US) 50k and 100k emissions compliance requirement, where the mfgr was on the hook to keep the vehicle in compliance, they started to splurge a bit with the fuel filter quality and size.
It is not bypassed. This chipper ran rather well when I bought it. And I used it. Then let it sit for a couple years and found it would not start, or would start and die. So I thought maybe it was not getting fuel delivery. So I hooked up a small tank like a lawn mower tank, and just a fuel line with an inline filter straight into the carburetor by gravity feed. When it is put back in operation it will be using the mechanical fuel pump and the cannister filter, not this temporary gravity feed setup. I will switch out this diesel cannister for a regular gas cannister. I looked it up and the cartridge I should be using is R2132P Ryco Fuel Filter.
The reason the Crosland 522 is there is when I bought it I took the filters that the previous owner had and bought new versions of exactly what he was using. Oil, air and fuel. So I put a new 522 on it because that is what the previous owner had. I did not know it was the wrong one at the time. This chipper is 45 years old and maybe some things were done along the way like using the wrong cartridge. Thank you for catching the mistake. It will be corrected! It's not like I have a factory owners manual for this thing.
In the next few days I will put it back together and see if it runs and idles well like when I first bought it. But the guy I bought it from was by no means a trustworthy skilled mechanic.
I understand the reason it would have a cannister filter is that it was meant for heavy continuous use in dirty conditions. Also the cannister supposedly can let any water in the fuel settle to the bottom and be drained off.
The only reason that I can think of a filter being rated for "diesel only" is zinc (galvanizing). Zinc and diesel don't get along, which is why if you do a diesel conversion on a petrol vehicle, you need to replace the fuel tank or acid wash it or something to remove the internal zinc plating (if it has zinc plating!). A typical diesel fuel filter will clog all the time -- I am told -- trying to contain the zinc that gets removed from the gasoline tank.
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