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Hi I just picked up a '49 F68. It is a total project. Not rusty, good patina overall. Mechanical needs a complete restoration. The 14" rear brake drums are out of spec and new ones seem to be unobtainium. My plan is to keep the truck as original as possible, not necessarily all original but engine and driveline including the solid front axle and the Timken rear end and drum brakes. It just seems if I restomod this truck it will lose the character it has, and I like old stuff. I was looking at options and brainstorming ideas and I found that a 3/4 ton Chevy rear drum system might fit with minor massaging. 3-5/16" mounting hole spacing on the GM rear vs 3-3/8" bolt spacing on the Ford Timken. The GM has 13" or 11" drums vs the Timken 14", this would help get rid of the widowmakers as well. I happen to have access to several GM rear ends for parts. Has anybody done something like this? I also looked into the Dana 60 rear end swap, and will only attempt to go that route once all options to keep the Timken have been exhausted. Thanks in advance.
I can't speak to alternatives, but I have been able to keep my fleet of large trucks alive with original options. Unfortunately, yes, drums are the hardest part. There is no supply of new drums. However, I have successfully harvested serviceable drums with reserves.
You can always reach out and call Chuck at Chuck's Trucks LLC to see what he has available in his ever evolving salvage but usable inventory.
There are also a few forum members here who occasionally pick up truck carcases and salvage safer wheel options and the hard to find parts like drums. You could even obtain a parts truck yourself and part out what you don't need or pass the carcass on after you harvest what you want. Just don't expect this hobby to make any economical sense except writing it off as entertainment or skill development.
Another option to explore is sleeving or building up your out of spec drums. There are places like https://www.jgrelinings.com/about that will add material to the drum and then bring it back into specification.
Thanks, I'm planning on the Rustic disc brake conversion as well. I find it hard to believe that there was only .020" of wear allowed in the 14" drums. The disc conversion will be much easier to get parts for......at least for now. I have already scoured the old car parts places and wrecking yards to find a Dana 60, haha, it's easier to find original 4.11 for these old Timkens!
Thanks, I'm planning on the Rustic disc brake conversion as well. I find it hard to believe that there was only .020" of wear allowed in the 14" drums. The disc conversion will be much easier to get parts for......at least for now. I have already scoured the old car parts places and wrecking yards to find a Dana 60, haha, it's easier to find original 4.11 for these old Timkens!
So just as an FYI, mine were fitted when I got the truck. I questioned why the front calipers were on the front of the hub/rotor instead of the common back position. I went to fit the inner fender I realized they had reversed the shocks (moved from the front to the back of the axle beam to clear the caliper) and as a result the inner fenders didn't fit. I decided to move the calipers and put the suspension back where it was supposed to be and quickly found out why they were mounted where they were. The passenger side was straight forward but the driver's side was a pain in the bum and took some modifying of the mounting system and the pitman arm for the steering to get clearance. In the end, the hub, mounting brackets, rotor and caliper had to be assembled on the floor and fitted in one piece because the lowest brake pad bolt was too long to go in when fitted because of the pitman arm. Not having started the project I have no clue if it was the correct parts for the job or not but that's what I encountered. I hope that makes sense? I have attached a couple of pictured from before I moved them.
I don't recall anyone here using Chevy rear brakes to replace the 14" Lockheeds on their F3's. It would be an interesting option if it works. The Dana 60 from an F250 up to '72 is a bolt in, but through the 50's they didn't have parking brakes incorporated in them. The park brake was a drum on the back of the trans. I'm not sure exactly when Ford moved the park brake back to the axle, but it's something to look for. Most people do the Dana swap because it's simple and cheap with the least amount of fussing with modifications. Welcome to the forum. Keep us posted on your progress.