63 390 swap into 68 f250
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63 390 swap into 68 f250
Hello,
I was given a 390 that was pulled out of a 1963 ford thunderbird, and I want to drop it in my '68 ford f250. It was rebuilt within the last ten years but has sat outside for some time so Im gonna have it gone through. I also hope it will bolt up to my trucks later built t18 4 speed transmission. Thoughts, advice, and technical input are appreciated as this is my first time removing and dropping in a new engine and all that it entails. Thanks!
I was given a 390 that was pulled out of a 1963 ford thunderbird, and I want to drop it in my '68 ford f250. It was rebuilt within the last ten years but has sat outside for some time so Im gonna have it gone through. I also hope it will bolt up to my trucks later built t18 4 speed transmission. Thoughts, advice, and technical input are appreciated as this is my first time removing and dropping in a new engine and all that it entails. Thanks!
Last edited by RamblinMan1963; 10-15-2017 at 06:05 PM. Reason: Mistaken
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The only issue is how the motor mounts attach to the block. I know on our vintage trucks that there are four bosses and that the two towards the front are used. I believe on the older blocks only the two towards the rear are tapped and used. There may be some others that have run into this and they will chime in.
#3
Another change to watch out for is the engine mount bolt holes on pre-1965 “FE” blocks. Blocks before 1965 had two-bolt engine mounts while those from 1965 and later had three-bolt engine mounts. This isn’t a problem if you plan on using a 1965 and later block in a pre-1965 vehicle.
Problems abound when using a pre-1965 block in a post-1965 vehicle because some machining and drilling are required. If you find a block with four engine mount attachment holes on each side, you’ve found an “FT” block for trucks.
Problems abound when using a pre-1965 block in a post-1965 vehicle because some machining and drilling are required. If you find a block with four engine mount attachment holes on each side, you’ve found an “FT” block for trucks.
#4
Hello,
I was given a 390 that was pulled out of a 1963 Ford Thunderbird, and I want to drop it in my '68 ford f250. It was rebuilt within the last ten years but has sat outside for some time so Im gonna have it gone through. I also hope it will bolt up to my trucks NP435 4 speed transmission. Thoughts, advice, and technical input are appreciated as this is my first time removing and dropping in a new engine and all that it entails. Thanks!
I was given a 390 that was pulled out of a 1963 Ford Thunderbird, and I want to drop it in my '68 ford f250. It was rebuilt within the last ten years but has sat outside for some time so Im gonna have it gone through. I also hope it will bolt up to my trucks NP435 4 speed transmission. Thoughts, advice, and technical input are appreciated as this is my first time removing and dropping in a new engine and all that it entails. Thanks!
The bolt pattern on the block where the steel/rubber insulators bolt to is different than 1965/76 FE engines.
1958/65 and some 1966 FE's have a 2 1/2" O.D. thermostat. Some 1966's, 1967/76 FE's have a 2 1/4" O.D. thermostat.
1961/64: The smog valve (if present), threads into the front of the intake manifold.
1959/63 FE's use a specific water pump that was not used in 1964. 1965/76 FE's use a different water pump.
Alternator introduced in 1963 Thunderbirds, everything else in 1965.
btw: Make sure this engine is a 390 from a Thunderbird (only engine available in 1961/65 T-Birds). If it came from a Galaxie, it could be a 352 or 390 or who knows what...
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#6
Forgot about that. There was once a fancy adapter for that. See if I can find it again.
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Originally Posted by kenny nunez View Post
The only other thing to look at is the hole in the right front of the block for the alternator 7/16th bolt. I once had to weld a 7/16th nut to a piece of steel to mount the alternator. Good luck.
The only other thing to look at is the hole in the right front of the block for the alternator 7/16th bolt. I once had to weld a 7/16th nut to a piece of steel to mount the alternator. Good luck.
The 1st photo shows a complate kit, the 2nd just the needed adapter if wanting to use OEM mounting (low or high mount).
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i posted some pics, i can see how the motor mounts are different. It already has an alternator on it. I got the stuck dizzy out so im flushing the block and then im gonna put her together. I really want this engine, i can post more pics of the insides, the pistons and everything are new and pretty
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1958/64 FE engines were only installed in cars, have rounded valve covers without holes for oil cap/smog valve (introduced 1961). Have an engine oil fill tube at the right front.
The bolt pattern on the block where the steel/rubber insulators bolt to is different than 1965/76 FE engines.
1958/65 and some 1966 FE's have a 2 1/2" O.D. thermostat. Some 1966's, 1967/76 FE's have a 2 1/4" O.D. thermostat.
1961/64: The smog valve (if present), threads into the front of the intake manifold.
1959/63 FE's use a specific water pump that was not used in 1964. 1965/76 FE's use a different water pump.
Alternator introduced in 1963 Thunderbirds, everything else in 1965.
btw: Make sure this engine is a 390 from a Thunderbird (only engine available in 1961/65 T-Birds). If it came from a Galaxie, it could be a 352 or 390 or who knows what...
The bolt pattern on the block where the steel/rubber insulators bolt to is different than 1965/76 FE engines.
1958/65 and some 1966 FE's have a 2 1/2" O.D. thermostat. Some 1966's, 1967/76 FE's have a 2 1/4" O.D. thermostat.
1961/64: The smog valve (if present), threads into the front of the intake manifold.
1959/63 FE's use a specific water pump that was not used in 1964. 1965/76 FE's use a different water pump.
Alternator introduced in 1963 Thunderbirds, everything else in 1965.
btw: Make sure this engine is a 390 from a Thunderbird (only engine available in 1961/65 T-Birds). If it came from a Galaxie, it could be a 352 or 390 or who knows what...
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no it definitely uses the two bolt motor mount set up instead of the post 65 four bolt. Could i just get motormounts for a 63 tbird or truck?
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