New member with a 1956 C-600
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New member with a 1956 C-600
Hello all:
I joined last week when I acquired my 1956 C-600, and after doing plenty of research. From the vin, it appears the "z" engine code designates a 272 cu. in. OHV 8 cylinder heavy duty engine. I thought these had a 292 in them, but someone can correct me if I am wrong.
A good friend who owns a salvage yard here in Michigan , when he heard of my acquisition, sent over a Ford E-350 complete chassis with a V-10 motor and heavy duty transmission, in excellent condition. Looks like I will attempt to transplant the cab, and have all the modern conveniences such a four wheel disc brakes and heavy duty suspension. I will probably end up with a pickup rather than a hauler, since I'm not sure I have the skills for a ramped hauler.
Both cab steps are fairly well rotted, but I have no idea where to obtain a set. Do I have to have them fabricated from scratch, or does someone make them ? The only other rust-out is on the back-side of the cab. Will a patch panel from some of the smaller trucks fit, or does this have to fabricated also?
I'm sure I will have many other questions as I progress, and will be grateful for your collective wisdom and suggestions.
Regards, Mark.
I joined last week when I acquired my 1956 C-600, and after doing plenty of research. From the vin, it appears the "z" engine code designates a 272 cu. in. OHV 8 cylinder heavy duty engine. I thought these had a 292 in them, but someone can correct me if I am wrong.
A good friend who owns a salvage yard here in Michigan , when he heard of my acquisition, sent over a Ford E-350 complete chassis with a V-10 motor and heavy duty transmission, in excellent condition. Looks like I will attempt to transplant the cab, and have all the modern conveniences such a four wheel disc brakes and heavy duty suspension. I will probably end up with a pickup rather than a hauler, since I'm not sure I have the skills for a ramped hauler.
Both cab steps are fairly well rotted, but I have no idea where to obtain a set. Do I have to have them fabricated from scratch, or does someone make them ? The only other rust-out is on the back-side of the cab. Will a patch panel from some of the smaller trucks fit, or does this have to fabricated also?
I'm sure I will have many other questions as I progress, and will be grateful for your collective wisdom and suggestions.
Regards, Mark.
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Welcome to the Forum. You have found a great place for info and help.
I will let the others familiar with COE's chime in on the parts question. I will caution you that frame swaps are much more difficult than just bolting a cab onto a frame and making a bed. Many are started and few are completed. Most recommend retaining the original frame and upgrading from there, but it is your project and you should proceed as you want. Just be realistic in your time and $$ budget, as well as your skill level.
The general rule is multiply your cost estimate by 3 and your time estimate by 4.
And remember, we like pics.
I will let the others familiar with COE's chime in on the parts question. I will caution you that frame swaps are much more difficult than just bolting a cab onto a frame and making a bed. Many are started and few are completed. Most recommend retaining the original frame and upgrading from there, but it is your project and you should proceed as you want. Just be realistic in your time and $$ budget, as well as your skill level.
The general rule is multiply your cost estimate by 3 and your time estimate by 4.
And remember, we like pics.
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Hey Mark. Welcome to FTE. I'm not a large truck person so I can't help with the specifics. There are many on here that can and will be along to help you out with your questions. You will also get a post with all the info you need about posting pics...which is a REQUIREMENT We love pics. Last comment I will make is you will get both sides of the frame swap debate. Most all the advice you get will be good solid advice....even the ones telling you "it will just end up as a pile of parts that are never finish." Personally that is all up to you and shouldn't discourage you. Make a plan and stick to it the best you can. Anything is possible and you will learn a lot along the way. Good luck!!
Oh, under your "user CP" go into "edit profile" and add where you are if you will. Helps us to see where you are and who may be close to you. Thanks!
EDIT: Don must have started typing before me.....lol
Oh, under your "user CP" go into "edit profile" and add where you are if you will. Helps us to see where you are and who may be close to you. Thanks!
EDIT: Don must have started typing before me.....lol
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1956 C-600
Thanks for the response. I am not a novice, except to COE's, having restored a 1958 GMC Suburban Carryall, a 1950 F-1, a 1939 Ford Coupe, a 1975 C-J 5 Jeep, a 1929 Model A Rat rod (which I just finished), and some tractors and a bulldozer.
Fortunately, I have many skilled friends who are always happy to help, so I think I can muddle through it.
I did post some pictures to my album here, and will add to it as I progress. Hopefully, the money won't run out before my body!!
Fortunately, I have many skilled friends who are always happy to help, so I think I can muddle through it.
I did post some pictures to my album here, and will add to it as I progress. Hopefully, the money won't run out before my body!!
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I posted a pic of the Case 350 dozer in my album, but can't figure out how to get it here. Somewhere I have a picture after the restoration, and when I find it, I'll put it up.
I'll look for a used set of steps in good shape, but it may be a needle in a haystack. I know a fellow a few miles from me who was formerly chief fabricator for Roush who can make anything, but it will be expensive.
I'll look for a used set of steps in good shape, but it may be a needle in a haystack. I know a fellow a few miles from me who was formerly chief fabricator for Roush who can make anything, but it will be expensive.
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Chris:
At the moment, we have 4 foot snow drifts here in Michigan, and I can't get to the chassis in my open heavy equipment barn. 4-7 more inches expected tonight and tomorrow, but I will post some pics of the chassis without the body as soon as we thaw out.
Jmadsen: Will other coe steps from the 50's fit the C-600? It might make my search a little bit easier.
Thanks for responding.
At the moment, we have 4 foot snow drifts here in Michigan, and I can't get to the chassis in my open heavy equipment barn. 4-7 more inches expected tonight and tomorrow, but I will post some pics of the chassis without the body as soon as we thaw out.
Jmadsen: Will other coe steps from the 50's fit the C-600? It might make my search a little bit easier.
Thanks for responding.
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I joined last week when I acquired my 1956 C600, and after doing plenty of research. From the vin, it appears the "z" engine code designates a 272 cu. in. OHV 8 cylinder heavy duty engine.
I thought these had a 292 in them, but someone can correct me if I am wrong.
I thought these had a 292 in them, but someone can correct me if I am wrong.
292 introduced in 1955 Thunderbird and Ford/Merc Passenger Cars, but was not available in trucks until 1957.
Pic is from 1948/56 Ford Truck Parts Catalog (available on a C/D from hipoparts.com).
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What year is the Econoline? If its 2005+ your probably going to have issues getting the computer reprogrammed to run without much of the factory wiring. 2004 and older is much easier to modify but only if someone out there has created a "definition file" for the tuning software. Econolines aren't exactly the attention of the Ford tuning community compared to the mustangs.
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Thanks for the engine info, that clears up one misconception. The E-350 chassis is a 2001. I am aware of a fellow down south that will make up a complete harness to avoid the fuel injection and the computer module, so I can carbureate the engine. I am still debating whether or not to use the V-10 or a different engine and trans.