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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fordmdb
Not to dive right in the middle but here is same truck 5 months later on 87 octane gas.
Peak to Peak gains are good but the torque down low over stock is the best part over stock. My opinion of course. The key to this is there are goods gains over stock that can be beneficial.

But,but,but that can't be,you just made that up......
Some people will argue that earth isn't round too.
Thanks Mike,I figured you'd have more dyno sheets out there.
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fordmdb
Not to dive right in the middle but here is same truck 5 months later on 87 octane gas.
Peak to Peak gains are good but the torque down low over stock is the best part over stock. My opinion of course. The key to this is there are goods gains over stock that can be beneficial.
Thanks Mike!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Thread cleaned - ENOUGH. Keep it in the V10 vs. PSD thread where it belongs.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Yes chipping or putting a tuner on a gas engine super duty is a waste of money. You don't get the power you are thinking you will be getting, you don't get the mpg you think you will get. I had a 08 f-250 5.4 with a SCT tuner, AFE CAI, and dual exhaust and I didn't pickup anything. It was all a waste of money. Just keep your truck stock if you have a gas engine. There is no point of spending hard earn money on stuff that you won't get the gains that you want out of it.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Yes chipping or putting a tuner on a gas engine super duty is a waste of money. You don't get the power you are thinking you will be getting, you don't get the mpg you think you will get. I had a 08 f-250 5.4 with a SCT tuner, AFE CAI, and dual exhaust and I didn't pickup anything. It was all a waste of money. Just keep your truck stock if you have a gas engine. There is no point of spending hard earn money on stuff that you won't get the gains that you want out of it.
Well let's see...
CAI=WORHTLESS
Dual exhaust=WORHTLESS
SCT Tuner-if it was a generic cookie-cutter that 99% of the population purchases-WORHTLESS.
Don't let your bitterness over ignorant purchases spill over where facts and hard data have been presented.
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
Well let's see...
CAI=WORHTLESS
Dual exhaust=WORHTLESS
SCT Tuner-if it was a generic cookie-cutter that 99% of the population purchases-WORHTLESS.
Don't let your bitterness over ignorant purchases spill over where facts and hard data have been presented.
JL
The only hard data I see is the v-10 not making the power that you and every other v-10 owner claims.
Oh and getting a gas engine in a super duty=WORTHLESS
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Yes chipping or putting a tuner on a gas engine super duty is a waste of money. You don't get the power you are thinking you will be getting, you don't get the mpg you think you will get. I had a 08 f-250 5.4 with a SCT tuner, AFE CAI, and dual exhaust and I didn't pickup anything. It was all a waste of money. Just keep your truck stock if you have a gas engine. There is no point of spending hard earn money on stuff that you won't get the gains that you want out of it.
Maybe your choice of the 5.4 was the problem in the first place? Or that you expected those things to make a difference.

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CAI=WORHTLESS
Dual exhaust=WORHTLESS
SCT Tuner-if it was a generic cookie-cutter that 99% of the population purchases-WORHTLESS.
CAI - more noise - in my case the Volant did help - make more intake noise. But, at the the RPMs and load that it makes more noise, it does seem to increase torque. Maybe not a whole lot at WOT - maybe nothing - but it definitely added some "value".

Dual exhaust - don't have it - and if you are not full dual, with an H/X pipe, it's worthless.

SCT tune. With Mike's 5-star SCT X3 tune, I brought my 0-60 from 10 seconds down to 9.02-9.04. Engine/tranny/whatever, it worked. Maybe I could tune it for a few 100th's of a second better on a dyno, I don't have the patience for that.

Suffice to say, the tune I have DOES help - a LOT!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Just helping JL give it a bump since it went all the way back to the 4th page...
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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I had the SCT SF2 on my 6.8l first and there wasn't much of a difference. For those of you who don't know the SF2 is an Xcal2 with SCTs canned tunes. Later got some custom tunes from 5 Star and converted my SF2 to Xcal2 software. The difference is huge and you really have to have experience with it to understand.

It really helps to have the vehicle tuned with the aftermarket parts you are putting on in mind.

My 2008 V-10 has been on the DiabloSport Predator 91 octane "middle" setting since it had 4,000 miles. Now has 66,000 miles and runs great. Big difference over stock, towing and solo. Mileage at 12 mpg around town and never below 9 when towing, no matter how heavy.
Pick up some custom tunes for that predator or get an SCT Xcal with custom tunes. You will like the difference. The Diablosport canned tunes really blow, a lot worse than SCT's canned tunes in my experience.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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oopsy...all the way back to page 3 again....4hrs later....Last bump for you Johnny boy...I'm thinking everyone knows the truth...
 
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
You couldn't give me a Livewire-it's a pile.
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Whats wrong with it?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
Whats wrong with it?
Flaky firmware, rushed release, non-functional "features", etc, etc...it's just a POS.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Yes chipping or putting a tuner on a gas engine super duty is a waste of money. You don't get the power you are thinking you will be getting, you don't get the mpg you think you will get. I had a 08 f-250 5.4 with a SCT tuner, AFE CAI, and dual exhaust and I didn't pickup anything. It was all a waste of money. Just keep your truck stock if you have a gas engine. There is no point of spending hard earn money on stuff that you won't get the gains that you want out of it.
in your defense, we all know that some drivers need the extra power to make it happen for them, better drivers can move mountains with their existing power plants, 5.4s and 6.8s included

your diesel fuel guzzling 6.poor is a waste of money, you really should have waited for the 6.7, and before you talk about my 01 V10, the bottom line is i am satisfied, i will likely never sell my truck, that's not to say a 2011 or 2012 6.7 isn't in my future, now that is a truck that interests me, so i will have two SDs, let us know when you trade in for your next truck in two years
 
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
The only hard data I see is the v-10 not making the power that you and every other v-10 owner claims.
Oh and getting a gas engine in a super duty=WORTHLESS
funny thing is, that this is probably your 1st diesel, is it? and probably you have only been a truck owner since 2008, but hey, your the expert, you would NEVER make the mistake of buying a gas SD, or would you? with that being said, your statement above is useless
 
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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Let's let sleeping dogs lie...
 
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