Expressing an opinion in capital letters does not make it a fact.

How to you judge the "top powerplant"? Horsepower? Torque? Durability? Gas mileage? Reliability? The only things we know about at this point are horsepower and torque, so there is really no way we can say that an unproven engine is better than the others. Time will tell - maybe it'll be a good engine, and maybe it won't.

As far as teething problems go, it appears that the 6.0L diesel is having more launch problems than the Duramax did - but once those problems are worked out it'll probably be a great engine. If I was buying a truck today and could use any drivetrain combination from any manufacturer, I'd have a Superduty with the Cummins diesel and the Dodge 6-speed manual. If I was buying an auto, I'd probably get the Allison - simply because you can't lock out overdrive with the Torqshift. The Duramax would also be a top contender - the aluminum heads don't appear to be an issue, and the feedback in the last couple years has been pretty good.

LK

 

GOOD POST LK!

Got to admit-you hit it all right on the head there-esp the NV5600 used in the Dodge-for all their auto tranny problems,they really do have Ford and Chevy beat bad when it comes to 6 spds.

Regards.

 

Never been designed to make high HP. You have your wires crossed. Makeing HP from the little 5.9 cummins is easy. Just to let you know my truck redlines at 4200rpm's yes it is not stock but I have put 135k hard miles on her and she runs like new.
I have also seen many guys pulling 8k on pulling trucks with the 5.9 cummins. My truck also with 400hp is getting 21mpg over the road.

ever ask yourself why the top pulling trucks are dodges, 1000hp out of a 5.9 hmm that must be low I know the 7.3 or even the 6.0 can get that with a just a CHIP right?

I don't know if you guys have seen the artical I read or not but a guy that lives in Ohio has a 95 or 96 dodge with 1.7 million miles on it. I have seen many dodges over 500k. seems like at 500k they are just getting there best MPG.
The 5spd auto from ford is new along with the 48re auto. I guess sense its in a ford its going to be good and the dodge is going to be bad.

 

I guess the whopping 5ft/lb advantage makes it best
I also find it odd how close the new ford diesel is to the dodge for displacement. It it just a coincidence? I doubt it, just like the superduty body is a blatant rip off of the dodge ram.

I agree with LK, if they made a superduty with the cummins and dodge 6 speed I'd be all over it.

 

I always think its funny when some Dodge owner's life is so lacking that he has to come to a Ford site.

Dodge.... a verb, not a noun. And the body.... no matter how you try you can't polish a turd --- even when you redesign it to look like a riceboy car.

 

No I just like to keep the story straight. I can't say fords are the worst because I own one. "96 psd 4x4 5spd" Nice truck but its no cummins.

 

Please do a tad of research before spouting off. All you're doing is digging a deeper hole.


http://www.allpar.com/model/ram/specs.html

 

Please post a picture of your Ford with you next to it. Better yet, park it next to your Dodge and take a picture and post it here.... I don't take supposed unbiased testimonials on face value (unlike some, I'll admit I'm biased).

 

You're correct, capital letters or not, it's still an opinion.

I am not a diesel fan!!! I base all my opinions of the G2 on the tests and comparisons. In this day and age I don't believe there will be any catastrophic design flaws that would limit the life of the G2. Hardware/software problems that need to be addressed? Absolutely. I seem to remember like problems with the D-max/Allison intro and that the dealers were doing total swaps rather than trying to fix them, a lot of no starts were common.

The reason I like the G2 concept is it is (by everything I've read) the quietest, smoothest most powerful diesel and is available with a very close competitor to the Allison(I think the Allison was/is the best auto but the Ford 5 speed seems to match up well)

I agree with an above post that the total package must be considered, the Cummins as an engine alone is a venerable piece. You cannot get its highest output with an auto or even with a 6 speed in some states.

For now, I THINK the G2 5 speed is the best diesel PACKAGE available. If reliability becomes an albatross I'll have egg on my face(like wxboy LOL!)

 

I don't own the truck anymore but I know the guy that does so I will get your pic. just to make you happy. I sold it last year to pay for my tractor. 1206 IH. need a pic of it also. you got it.

 

I should be more twards the chevy than dodge or ford because I have two uncles that worked for GM. They get great dicounts but I have found out over the years that I can get a dodge for the same price as a chevy after the discounts.
My first dodge was a 78 4x4 powerwagon. two years later I bought my 96 had it for a year and the tranny went south. got a new tranny and kept it for a little while before I got my dodge. My friend offered to buy the stroker so off it went. then came the tractor.I can't say that I hated the truck but it was not the powerhouse my cummins is. The stroker had a 70 hp chip I believe. "dad got it for christmas" The only problem I had was the tranny.

 

Not that i'm biased or anything but I am agreeing with everything dman01 is saying.

What's the deal with all of the stories about the bad injectors, oil leaks, rough starts, and lopey idling? I mean Ford just got their 7.3L Navistar engine all sorted out and now they throw away all of their engineering. What's up with that?

 

You really are amusing.

Look, I've been cool about it so far. Since you don't own a diesel, and you admit you have no experience with them, why don't you head back over to the V10 forum and let those of us who know what we are talking about discuss these topics?

PLEASE?

 

LMAO!!!! I drive diesels every other day. During a 24 hour shift, if I'm on rescue, I may drive the Super Duty PSD 10-12 times.

If for one moment you think you are one of "us who know what we are talking about" I truly feel sorry for the others you lump yourself in with.

Let's see all the wrong statements one can make in less than a week;

The PSD is a converted gas engine..................WRONG

Dodge is a US company....................................WRONG

Ford is shipping more PSD to dealers for replacement than for new trucks...I know because my uncle's cousin's brother's wife's best friend's neighbor's dog told me..................WRONG

I'm glad you've been "real cool" about it so far. I'd hate to see what BS might spew if you weren't sooooooo coool.

 

If for some reason it would be you would think the only thing internally different would be the stroke, right? What's the bore and stroke on the 460 and on the powerstroke?