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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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The diesel fuel shortage is really getting difficult for trucking companies here in Western Canada. Increased cost and the pain of trying to figure out where you can get fuel. Last week Coop here in Manitoba capped at 600L per day, now we are down to 300L per day. That sure doesn't last long in a big truck...

We are 126.9 here with gas at 113.9, what's it like up in Edmonton?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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I just fill up and pay inside now. Running the card twice is a pain. I have pumped $190.00 and paid inside.

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Depends on the implementation of the limit. I heard the explanation from a station attendant once was because if you were going to fuel up and run away without paying, they only want you to run away with $100 per pump at a time. What's weird is that you still have a limit when doing prepay.

Okay I'll try it. The editorial cartoons about this have started appearing.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Whiteline
The diesel fuel shortage is really getting difficult for trucking companies here in Western Canada. Increased cost and the pain of trying to figure out where you can get fuel. Last week Coop here in Manitoba capped at 600L per day, now we are down to 300L per day. That sure doesn't last long in a big truck...

We are 126.9 here with gas at 113.9, what's it like up in Edmonton?
ULSD is around $1.179/L, and that's what I paid recently at Esso Imperial Oil retail, but some stations like Hughes have gone all the way up to $1.309/L. Regular gasoline is $1.019 at most places currently.

Spruce Grove has (had) the cheapest diesel in the whole area, and Sherwood Park has the most expensive in the area. That's generally how it goes most of the time but right now that's not the case.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TRENT310
Depends on the implementation of the limit. I heard the explanation from a station attendant once was because if you were going to fuel up and run away without paying, they only want you to run away with $100 per pump at a time. What's weird is that you still have a limit when doing prepay.

Okay I'll try it. The editorial cartoons about this have started appearing.
I only buy from shell (if I can) in Spruce grove or west edmonton (on stoney and about 180 st?) At these stations the diesel is on the pre pay side but the deisel pumps are NOT pre pay. You can pump as much as you like and then go in and pay. I have done up to $190.00. I guess they trust the diesel crowd more than the gassers
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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I have Shell (Triton) commercial gas card and even it will only pump $100.00 at the pump. This is so stupid. You can't run off with any fuel if you swipe a commercial card with a $20,000.00 credit limit. We spend $5,000.00 a month on fuel. We have phoned shell and they will not change it, when paying at the pump the limit is $100.00.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TRENT310
ULSD is around $1.179/L, and that's what I paid recently at Esso Imperial Oil retail, but some stations like Hughes have gone all the way up to $1.309/L. Regular gasoline is $1.019 at most places currently.

Spruce Grove has (had) the cheapest diesel in the whole area, and Sherwood Park has the most expensive in the area. That's generally how it goes most of the time but right now that's not the case.
Gotta love Alberta, gas at 1.019! We are a solid $.12/L more here in Manitoba.

I always try to fuel at places that don't cap the $$, like Darren, pay inside if possible. I agree with the other poster that commented on having a $100 limit when you pay at the pump. WHY? they've got my credit card info right there.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 09:43 AM
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I usually fill up at about 1/4 tank , but for some reason this time I fooled around and got down to 19 miles to empty,I know that's not good, but I'll try to do better next time!!!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 09:47 AM
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I usually fill up at about 1/4 tank , but for some reason this time I fooled around and got down to 19 miles to empty,I know that's not good, but I'll try to do better next time!!!
In the summer I always wait until it is EMPTY. I have been 50 kM (30 miles) past 0 kM to E. That is with a Transfer flow 50 gal midship tank though, not sure how far you can go with the stock tank!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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In the summer I always wait until it is EMPTY. I have been 50 kM (30 miles) past 0 kM to E. That is with a Transfer flow 50 gal midship tank though, not sure how far you can go with the stock tank!
I got caught not paying attention on my last trip into the US, when I got to the fuel station it had been on 0 for about a mile. I put in 24.1 gal, that's WAY to close for my comfort level! My passenger got a good laugh out of me sweating and wondering if we would make it though...
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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I was wondering if being closer to the fuel supply chain means that temporary disruptions in production have a more rapid effect on retail fuel availability, while if there are more 'steps' involved in delivering your fuel, there may be more 'buffering' ability to hold over these supply interruptions?

(Does that make any sense? Lol my industry is telecom and interruptions are immediate )
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TRENT310
I was wondering if being closer to the fuel supply chain means that temporary disruptions in production have a more rapid effect on retail fuel availability, while if there are more 'steps' involved in delivering your fuel, there may be more 'buffering' ability to hold over these supply interruptions?

(Does that make any sense? Lol my industry is telecom and interruptions are immediate )
I think so, there is prob less storage at the source. We did a lot of work at the Scotford upgrader a couple of years ago. There were a few disruptions in the integration between the refinery and the upgrader. I was on site for a lot of the time and every time there was a disruption shell stations would be out of diesel shortly after.

Not sure why we can't just take some from the huge tanks at the Enbridge Edmonton terminal that we pump down south

Never seemed to effect gas though, more supply I guess.

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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TRENT310
I was wondering if being closer to the fuel supply chain means that temporary disruptions in production have a more rapid effect on retail fuel availability, while if there are more 'steps' involved in delivering your fuel, there may be more 'buffering' ability to hold over these supply interruptions?

(Does that make any sense? Lol my industry is telecom and interruptions are immediate )
It would make sense that there would be a bit of storage along the way that would buffer the effects of a production problem. It did take a bit to have restrictions here after hearing about the problems in Alberta first. But maybe it also speaks to how much extra capacity there are at other refineries in various regions. If it took longer to feel the pain then I guess it would make sense that it will take longer for us to get back to normal?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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That's about as close as mine I put in 24 gals even for $90.00
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I got caught not paying attention on my last trip into the US, when I got to the fuel station it had been on 0 for about a mile. I put in 24.1 gal, that's WAY to close for my comfort level! My passenger got a good laugh out of me sweating and wondering if we would make it though...
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 01:41 PM
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Just drove by a couple of my favorite "fueling holes" (Edmonton AB Canada).
NO DIESEL.
Local shell station says they are getting a limited amount tomorrow AM, so if you want some line up!

A few reasons for the shortages here (that I have been told):
-CO OP refinery in regina had an explosion early Oct and diesel production is down 25%
-Both Suncor refinery in Edmonton and Shell Scotford are lacking hydrogen from a third party supplier (used in production). Both are looking for other sources.
-The demad for deisel is HUGE here.

They are saying the shortages could last into December....
Wishin' I would have went with the transfer flow 100 gal in box tank now
 
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by darren32
Just drove by a couple of my favorite "fueling holes" (Edmonton AB Canada).
NO DIESEL.
Local shell station says they are getting a limited amount tomorrow AM, so if you want some line up!

A few reasons for the shortages here (that I have been told):
-CO OP refinery in regina had an explosion early Oct and diesel production is down 25%
-Both Suncor refinery in Edmonton and Shell Scotford are lacking hydrogen from a third party supplier (used in production). Both are looking for other sources.
-The demad for deisel is HUGE here.

They are saying the shortages could last into December....
Wishin' I would have went with the transfer flow 100 gal in box tank now
Wow, that's a tough deal for our friends up north. It is a good reminder from an emergency preparedness perspective to try to manage some fuel reserves. I just read an article that stated in a true disaster, fuel, water and groceries can be wiped out in a few hours. It's a good reminder to check your personal preparedness.

I do love my Titan tank...
 
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