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rexblue 01-25-2019 03:58 PM

Front Drum Brake Question
 
Can anyone tell me how to separate the front hub from the drum on a 1965 F100? I bought new drums from NAPA and they just sent the bare drums with no hub or bearings. I'm tempted to just send them back and try to find pre assembled units. Thanks
rx

Tedster9 01-25-2019 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by rexblue (Post 18440797)
I'm tempted to just send them back and try to find pre assembled units. Thanks

There aren't any available, that's the issue. From 64-67 or something like that, Ford only supplied them as a unit. No hubs or assemblies are to be found, they are unobtanium. Take your new drums and ten (10) NEW Ford or Dorman wheel studs to a decent machine shop and have the old hubs pressed off and installed with the new studs on the new drums correctly. Good time to replace the bearings & cones too.

NumberDummy 01-25-2019 04:11 PM

1964/67 F100 2WD: Ford only sold the hub with the drum as an assembly (C6TZ-1102-B). It's obsolete, none are available NOS

You can buy new drums/studs from auto parts stores, but no one ever sold the hubs only...including the dealers.

Do what Tedster said: Using new studs, have an auto parts store machine shop press the old drums off, then press the new drums on the hubs.

rexblue 01-25-2019 04:29 PM

Thanks Guys! I found a shop right here in town that can press the drums off and on. I'm getting ready to install steel brake lines and dual master cylinder from a '67. I hope I'm not goin' way wrong.
rx

Christmas 01-25-2019 09:12 PM

I swapped a complete 79 F250 into my 66. Not cheap but worth it.
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Inline66 01-26-2019 05:55 PM

The dual master is a good idea, but why not go power while you're at it? Not much more work. I thought I would add that on my 66, the two sizes of studs listed at the parts stores were both wrong. One was the wrong diameter, one was the wrong length. Dorman 610-034 was a perfect fit, but who knows if I had the original hubs or not.

jpk_ks 01-29-2019 09:51 AM

When you re-install the hubs to the drum, get new studs. I tried to get the old ones pounded back in such that they would grip to the hub (under the advice of my mechanic FIL) and cracked both brand new drums.

So, now I get to buy them again and try to find the right studs to mount the things together. Anyone have any ideas or specs on what I'm looking for on the stud side?

66v8baby 01-29-2019 12:37 PM

NPD carries them. For 65 and '66 2WD before serial number 872,001 use p/n 1107-1, beginning with 872,001 use part number 1107-3.

rexblue 01-29-2019 05:11 PM

I wound up taking the hubs with drums attached down to Kelly's here in town and he pressed them apart in like a minute or so. His new press is set up to press on the center of the hub so it didn't even touch the studs- they remained solidly mounted on the hubs. The new drums (composite, made in China) just fit loose on the studs and seem like they'll require clips but in reality the lug nuts hold everything together well enough. I've run into a problem with fitment though. Even though I've beveled the crap out of both the leading and trailing edges of the new (relined) shoes the new drums are WAY too tight even with the adjuster backed all the way off. They barely go on and it is impossible to turn the mounted tire by hand. The truck rolls but the brake's dragging like nobody's business. Can Chinese tolerances be that crapified? Has anyone else ever encountered this?
rx

Tedster9 01-29-2019 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by rexblue (Post 18448677)
Can Chinese tolerances be that crapified?

Sure why not? Measure with calipers.


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