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abe 11-03-2018 05:43 PM

That is great. and a great job figuring it out. Are the 56 cabs not tapered?

I was looking at your signs on the wall. Is that a Penn State Oil sign? I never heard of Penn State Oil products.

tinman52 11-03-2018 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by abe (Post 18285359)
That is great. and a great job figuring it out. Are the 56 cabs not tapered?

I was looking at your signs on the wall. Is that a Penn State Oil sign? I never heard of Penn State Oil products.

Yes the '56 cabs are tapered, but since the w/s posts are vertical that makes them easier to use.
Yes, the Penn State oil sign is one of the oldest I have(20's?)

69bosssvt 11-03-2018 07:21 PM

I saw this at SEMA a few years back...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...fb5442fc50.jpg

tinman52 11-03-2018 09:10 PM

Thanks for posting that, never seen that one before. Some interesting ideas there.
Looks like I might be the first to attempt non suicide doors...

Jolly Roger Joe 11-04-2018 05:38 AM

Excellent work Scott. Sounds like you have it all figured out. And that's a nice sunroof over the back seat too!

As opposed to modern crew cabs, this back seat will have oodles of legroom. Almost like being in a limo! Will you be installing a bar for the party in back?

tinman52 11-04-2018 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Jolly Roger Joe (Post 18285937)
Excellent work Scott. Sounds like you have it all figured out. And that's a nice sunroof over the back seat too!

As opposed to modern crew cabs, this back seat will have oodles of legroom. Almost like being in a limo! Will you be installing a bar for the party in back?

Ha! Contrary to popular thought, I do NOT have it all figured out. I'm making it up as I go along.
Yes the whole point of a crewcab is plenty of room....
No on the bar

56panelford 11-04-2018 10:16 AM

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tinman52 11-04-2018 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by 56panelford (Post 18286359)
Will the length of the frame allow a regular half ton box go without modifications or will you be making custom box sides. I really like this project you have going, makes me wish I had access to so many cabs...lol

John, this cab will end up on a newer chassis built as a car hauler. I'm just using this one as a "jig" so to say. Seemed simpler as the front cab is already bolted down.
When I get both cabs fitted together solid I will remove it/them. This truck takes up a lot of floor space.

56panelford 11-04-2018 11:03 AM

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tinman52 11-15-2018 07:02 PM

So I got the 2 cabs welded together and the floor all finished up.
It will get primer and seam sealer later.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...05e473991b.jpg

I also reinforced the pillars at the upper hinge area......these need to be really solid. Will finish off the inside of the pillar once the upper part gets built.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...e548d471b6.jpg

bernette 11-15-2018 07:58 PM

wow nice work ,and nice project !

56panelford 11-15-2018 08:25 PM

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tinman52 11-15-2018 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by 56panelford (Post 18309041)
Will you take it all down to bare metal Scott..?

Not the entire cab(s). Any of the spots with surface rust or sketchy paint will be stripped.

56panelford 11-15-2018 08:51 PM

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thepitshop 11-16-2018 06:12 AM

Nice job, looks like lots of work!!

vintage56 11-16-2018 08:26 AM

I gotta say, every time I watch a thread like this, there's bits and blots where I say to myself
"I think I'll do that differently."
Not here, so far...
Do you have a pic looking at that post from the exterior?

Earnestly note-taking,
JML

Effies 56 11-16-2018 08:50 AM

Tinman,
Greta fab work on a big project. I too would like to see the exterior at this stage. Way bigger than anything I would every tackle! Enjoyed the pictures.
Regards,
Chris

underthebridgejim 11-16-2018 09:03 AM

Great Scott, you are good at fabrication. Im so glad you take the time to share your work with us all. OK ROCK ON my friend

tinman52 11-16-2018 07:31 PM

Exterior pic for those asking....disregard the tape across the top, I was checking roof alignment.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...93ffbe74d1.jpg

I removed the wheels/tires to get it closer to the floor.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...d326aee283.jpg

tinman52 11-16-2018 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by underthebridgejim (Post 18309856)
Great Scott, you are good at fabrication. Im so glad you take the time to share your work with us all. OK ROCK ON my friend

Thank you Jim, and everyone for your kind words!

Effies 56 11-16-2018 08:16 PM

tinman,
Thanks for posting these pictures of the two cabs joined! I can start to see it now! You have taken on a big project but your work looks very good.

Regards,
Chris

abe 11-16-2018 08:48 PM

I'm glad you told us what the tape was for or else we'd think you were using Red Green's method of joining two vehicles together.... But he used duct tape and lots of it.

Marten 11-17-2018 05:39 AM

subscribing. Interesting project for sure

bobbytnm 11-17-2018 09:17 PM

Cool progress!

This might be a silly question, but since I've never tackled anything like that I don't know how to do it. When you weld those floor pieces in do you have to completely weld up those seams or do you just stitch them in (like in the pictures) and then go over them with seam sealer?

Keep after it, its going to be a great looking truck!

Bobby

tinman52 11-17-2018 10:02 PM

Bobby, those floor pieces are not structural, just filling in holes. So stitch welding is fine. They will be primed, seam sealed and eventually covered with sound deadener.
Any structural pieces or external panels will be fully welded.

tip49 11-18-2018 12:33 PM

Scott

Great progress and nice work, as always.

It was a bit surprising to see the crew cab length; I was imagining a "super cab" look when you started. There is going to be a ton of room when finished.

Look forward to the next instalment.

fordman75 11-18-2018 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by tip49 (Post 18313495)
Scott

Great progress and nice work, as always.

It was a bit surprising to see the crew cab length; I was imagining a "super cab" look when you started. There is going to be a ton of room when finished.

Look forward to the next instalment.

The longer cab makes it a lot more comfortable/usable for rear seat passengers. The super cab length would make it pretty tight for rear seat passengers.

bobbytnm 11-18-2018 07:50 PM

Scott,

Thanks for the info, that makes a lot of sense.

Bobby

tinman52 11-28-2018 09:11 AM

I had to take a break from this for a few days over the holiday.....it was making my head hurt trying to figure out the rear doors,
Much more difficult than I thought, these doors have NO right angles, parallel lines, or symmetry at all. But after much head scratching, I have a plan and am back on track.
Pictures in a couple days.

56panelford 11-28-2018 02:40 PM

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bobbytnm 11-28-2018 05:35 PM

Oh sure....

drop a big tease like that and leave us hanging.....

vintage56 11-28-2018 05:53 PM

...9th time checking FTE today *mostly* to see what Scott's amazed us with in his shop...
No pressure, but hurry every chance you get. Some of us are addicted to this thread in an almost bad way.
JML

fordman75 11-28-2018 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by tinman52 (Post 18331079)
I had to take a break from this for a few days over the holiday.....it was making my head hurt trying to figure out the rear doors,
Much more difficult than I thought, these doors have NO right angles, parallel lines, or symmetry at all. But after much head scratching, I have a plan and am back on track.
Pictures in a couple days.

There's a reason I decided I was just going to cut them vertically and join the back halves of two doors on each side. I came to the conclusion that dealing with the warpage from welding and cutting out the hinge areas and welding them into a rear section of a door was going to be easier. But I usually end up doing things the hard way.

tinman52 11-28-2018 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by fordman75 (Post 18332465)
There's a reason I decided I was just going to cut them vertically and join the back halves of two doors on each side. I came to the conclusion that dealing with the warpage from welding and cutting out the hinge areas and welding them into a rear section of a door was going to be easier. But I usually end up doing things the hard way.

That inner structure around the hinges may be difficult to integrate into the rear part of the door.. Either way is a lot of work.
Will try to get some pics up tomorrow.

bobbytnm 11-29-2018 06:01 PM

....there you go again...

you big tease....LOL

tinman52 11-29-2018 06:16 PM

Okay, pics finally.....I'll try to explain as I go along.
Started by cutting out the A pillar from the cab and door. Door was cut right behind where the division bar mounted. Not pictured is the inner hinge support that had to be trimmed away.
The plywood in the window is holding the upper door straight.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...aa661e43d8.jpg

Next I cut the rear piece from the opposite door.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...b47ee81fe3.jpg

Initial mock up tacked in place. 5/8 plywood or mdf fits in the window slot nicely holding everything straight.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...2ddb48dd22.jpg

tinman52 11-29-2018 06:32 PM

First mismatch......the lower edge of the window opening is not level, it goes uphill toward the front slightly.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...238022bc50.jpg

The inside is worse......the door also curves inward where it met the dash.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...2deeaa1dbc.jpg

A relief cut brings the outer skin in line

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...42cff4117e.jpg

The inner was a bit more challenging, requiring a relief cut and adding metal to the upper piece to bring it out.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...b6f0a25b53.jpg

More to follow......

Effies 56 11-29-2018 07:10 PM

Scott,
Very nice! I like to watch your fabrication techniques! Thanks for posting the pictures!
Regards,
Chris

tinman52 11-29-2018 07:52 PM

So here is the door fully tacked


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...76b3c09d8f.jpg

On to the door jamb....pretty much the same drill. The opposite side piece from the donor cab

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...5482850104.jpg

Keep trimming till it fits. If you want the window opening symmetrical the jamb and the upper door need to be joined at exact center.
The drip rails were a quandry for a while.......I wanted one continuous straight drip rail from front to back. That's pretty much impossible without chopping the cab to level the roof.
So they will stay as is, at least for now.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...d8c4427194.jpg

tinman52 11-29-2018 08:00 PM

Side shot. There are a lot of conflicting angles going on here, and the rear door window looks huge. I see now why many of these have shortened doors or a massive B pillar.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...ae9171ef21.jpg



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