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TitusDH 05-30-2018 01:26 PM

Signal stat wire colour code
 
G'day mates,

I have a signal stat unit older than dirt attached to my 49 F2 steering column. The original harness only reaches the fire wall. PO's cleverly prolongated each wire with yellow wire to the signal lights and chances are high they did it all wrong anyway. The harness is black, grey, green and red. Which wire is originally supposed to go to which corner of the vehicle?
The red shop manual is not very informative on this one.

Thank you, Wil

49fordv8f4 05-30-2018 07:59 PM

Here is the instructions for one I installed on my '47 COE close to 30 years ago.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...6eac45b103.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...42db247324.jpg
Colors are not all the same, but maybe it will help.
Mark

TitusDH 05-31-2018 03:05 AM

Hi Mark,

my unit is an older 700 series, or something, but your diagram sure will help me out. Great you posted it!

https://up.picr.de/32843495sw.jpg

52 Merc 05-31-2018 09:31 AM

Wil, there's a couple things you can try, both of which I've done previously. If you have an ohm meter, you can test for continuity through the wires while working the switch to determine left, right, and pilot. That will also tell you if your switch is working and worth keeping. If you're brave, you could also take the cover off the switch and visibly trace the wiring that way. It will be readily apparent where they go and what function they perform if you can see the positions on the switch unit. There's a good chance that the red and green wires in Mark's diagram for the model 502 switch will be the same as yours.

ReForder 05-31-2018 10:36 AM

That's a really sweet directional unit, Titus! I would make that work if you can.

A simple continuity tester work instead of an ohmeter (if he doesn't have one).https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...6cdc0dd61a.jpg

TitusDH 05-31-2018 01:52 PM

Wayne, by common standards I consider myself brave:

https://up.picr.de/32848804by.jpg

This is what I do to vintage pocket- and wristwatches for more than 20 years now. In the end most of them even run as they should.

I'll take the switch apart and will clean the contacts and will see how it is connected. Before I put current on any part of the harness, I have to renew it anyway. Up to now, one sharp look is sufficient to make it desintegrate completely. Never seen such brittle wiring before. In the dark I could trace the wiring by smell, smoke and where it starts glowing.....

But this is a future project which came to my mind only as I am about to remove the front clip to have better access to the front axle assembly. And before I cut all the wiring, I better ask if it is connected correctly to begin with.

In general, old things were built to last and to be repaired. Thus, I try to keep as many parts as possible and this switch is no exception. Heck, I even will go through the radio with a couple of new resistors and capacitors, once the more relevant things are done. Good excuse to buy an oscilloscope :-X04

Smitty49 05-31-2018 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by TitusDH (Post 18011544)
Hi Mark,

my unit is an older 700 series, or something, but your diagram sure will help me out. Great you posted it!

https://up.picr.de/32843495sw.jpg

The 700 Series Signal Stat is a 5 Wire unit and I believe no provisions to tie into the brake circuit, It's an external light unit only. Here's the Wiring-
•Green - left front
•Red - right front
•White - left rear
•Black - right rear
•Yellow - flasher

TitusDH 06-01-2018 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by Smitty49 (Post 18012643)
The 700 Series Signal Stat is a 5 Wire unit and I believe no provisions to tie into the brake circuit, It's an external light unit only. Here's the Wiring-
•Green - left front
•Red - right front
•White - left rear
•Black - right rear
•Yellow - flasher

Yeah, Smitty, this is what a NOS unit would look like. I even haven't found the signal flasher, it is hidden somewhere under the dash. Thus I just referred to the wires going to the individual lights. Thank you for confirming the colours.

https://up.picr.de/32851416qa.jpg

52 Merc 06-01-2018 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by TitusDH (Post 18012511)
Wayne, by common standards I consider myself brave:

https://up.picr.de/32848804by.jpg

This is what I do to vintage pocket- and wristwatches for more than 20 years now. In the end most of them even run as they should.

LOL!!! That is truly the definition of brave. :-X0A6

KirkF 06-01-2018 12:15 PM

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This is the signal stat 800 installation manual. It might also help you out a little.


Regards,

Kirk

TitusDH 06-02-2018 05:11 AM

Kirk, very nice. The signal lights will turn out to be the best documented part of my truck. Really can't go wrong now.

Thank you, Wil


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