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82_F100_300Six 12-04-2016 12:16 PM

6.2 less powerful than ecoboost
 
Our beloved powerplant is getting picked on
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From 4 Wheel & Off-Road February 2017

Frankly I couldn't care less. My hat is off to technology as I read or heard that the ecoboost is more powerful than the 7.3. More power to em.

Chuck's First Ford 12-04-2016 01:35 PM

but, will it still be alive after 200,000 miles of towing? :)

gstanfield 12-04-2016 02:28 PM

Exactly! It's very common for a heavy use engine to be under-stressed while a performance engine is over-stressed. The goal is to do the work and last a long time.

If you're buying a 6.2 Superduty looking for performance then you are sadly misguided. Either get a lighter truck or get a diesel with twice the torque. The point of an engine like the 6.2 is to last a long time without the added maintenance of the diesel and to have enough power to get the job done.

I've seen turbocharged Hayabusa motorcycle engines putting down 600+ HP from a 1300CC engine, don't think I'd want one in my truck.


The technology in the ecoboost is great and the new GM/Ford 10 speed will likely be a great transmission for it's intended use. If I didn't have need to tow and haul heavy stuff I'd probably get a F150 Ecoboost for a family truck, but I need something to haul heavy for many years.

snickers104 12-04-2016 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by gstanfield (Post 16768007)
Exactly! It's very common for a heavy use engine to be under-stressed while a performance engine is over-stressed. The goal is to do the work and last a long time.

If you're buying a 6.2 Superduty looking for performance then you are sadly misguided. Either get a lighter truck or get a diesel with twice the torque. The point of an engine like the 6.2 is to last a long time without the added maintenance of the diesel and to have enough power to get the job done.

I've seen turbocharged Hayabusa motorcycle engines putting down 600+ HP from a 1300CC engine, don't think I'd want one in my truck.


The technology in the ecoboost is great and the new GM/Ford 10 speed will likely be a great transmission for it's intended use. If I didn't have need to tow and haul heavy stuff I'd probably get a F150 Ecoboost for a family truck, but I need something to haul heavy for many years.


I agree with this!!!! The 6.2 is great for its intended purpose.

mikereidjr 12-04-2016 09:40 PM

The only complaint I had is that I wish it was faster off the line, but then I remember that it's not a race car.... :-)

krewat 12-05-2016 10:49 AM

They're comparing the Raptor 6.2 with the new Ecoboost. Not a Superduty ;)

bykr 12-05-2016 04:26 PM

I've got a SHO EcoBoost Taurus with a tune that puts out over 430hp and no way would I want to tow a car trailer with it. That torque peak is probably way up in rpm range. My 6.2 has way more grunt down low.

krewat 12-05-2016 04:37 PM

A stock Ecoboost in a SHO has a flat torque curve from around 1200-5500RPM. Because yours is tuned, the power is all up top.

Previous model EB, your mileage-may-vary caveat:

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/attac...1&d=1422557515

That's the F150 I'm assuming, and the previous EB, not the current one they are putting in the Raptor. I wouldn't say it makes all it's torque "up top" }>

bykr 12-05-2016 11:00 PM

That torque curve is pretty amazing for the EcoBoost, but I'm also thinking that the Raptor EB torque comes in much higher.

Slowpoke Slim 12-06-2016 05:26 AM

Well,

I've shown that magazine article to my truck, and we had a long talk about it. My truck seems to agree with me that it thinks it can still pull my 5th wheel around.

*Ok, sarcasm mode disengaged. *

The Raptor is a toy for the Ricky Racer types to run around like idiots in. The Super Duty is a truck, for grown ups to do truck type work stuff with.

john hardy 12-06-2016 06:05 AM

They should have gave the 6.2 a longer stroke for more torque.

Chuck's First Ford 12-06-2016 07:39 AM

bring back Steam power.. max torque at 1 rpm. :)
a 4884 can spin all of its driver wheels pulling millions of pounds


Never Mind. way to much daily work.:)......:)

Ron94150 12-06-2016 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by john hardy
They should have gave the 6.2 a longer stroke for more torque and made the internals stonger. Instead they make a high reving motor only good for 450 HP. Dumb move on fords part!

Hey John, you bought that 6.7 yet? You are really in the minority hating your 6.2, I've been stuck in vehicles I really didn't like after buying them for one reason or the other, and it sucks. Just go buy it, I've found it's easier to ask the wife for forgiveness than permission.

With the stroke, it sounds like you want a 5.4 towing experience, which sucked on the interstate. No manufacture has built a gas motor that will tow 12k pounds and be able to hit the hills without revving and hold a hi way speed.

The 450hp max came from a livernois ad trying to sale a racing short block. I don't buy it for a minute. But the fact is, what are you going to do with your motor to get more than 450 hp out of it other than a supercharger? It would be cheaper to buy the diesel option, and if you have to coin to buy the supercharger, you should have the coin to maintain the diesel.

RainDesert 12-06-2016 10:23 AM

For those who don't follow the 2017 SD and the updated 6.2, it is now producing 430 lbft at 3800 rpms. The first gen 6.2 that most have is at 405 lbft at 4500. So Ford has improved the 6.2 for torque.

john hardy 12-06-2016 10:51 AM

The 6.2 does have a long stroke, the 5.4 is longer. The stroke of the 5.4 is 4.17 inches the 6.2 is 3.74 inches.


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