460 swap into 1976 ford f100
I recently got a 1978 ford f350 460/c6 supercab for free. The guy who gave it me said it had a bad intake. I personaly have a 1976 f100 that had a 302. Who hard would it be to swap the c6/460 into the f100? Thanks
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Not too hard, but the 460 wasn't available in a '76 F100, right? Therefore you would be looking at a smog referee judgement, and it would have to meet '78 emissions standards as it's a '78 motor.
If this weren't the case, it would be an easy deal. Since it IS the case, and no, we don't need all you folks in states with no people to tell us how much CA sucks, I would say rebuild the 302. I think you could cheat a little on your rebuild. Does your truck have a cat? |
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
(Post 16532306)
Not too hard, but the 460 wasn't available in a '76 F100, right? Therefore you would be looking at a smog referee judgement, and it would have to meet '78 emissions standards as it's a '78 motor.
If this weren't the case, it would be an easy deal. Since it IS the case, and no, we don't need all you folks in states with no people to tell us how much CA sucks, I would say rebuild the 302. I think you could cheat a little on your rebuild. Does your truck have a cat? |
It will fit but it's not a straight bolt in.
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
(Post 16533456)
It will fit but it's not a straight bolt in.
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
(Post 16532306)
Not too hard, but the 460 wasn't available in a '76 F100, right? :-X22 Therefore you would be looking at a smog referee judgement, and it would have to meet '78 emissions standards as it's a '78 motor.
Since it IS the case, and no, we don't need all you folks in states with no people to tell us how much CA sucks, I would say rebuild the 302. I think you could cheat a little on your rebuild. Does your truck have a cat? :-X22 Avoid the headaches and stick with the 302. Beginning in 1976, in order to pass the CA smog test, ALL the original emission related parts have to be present and in good working order. The VIN will read 302, but the 460 will not have the same emission related parts as the 302. |
Originally Posted by 1976FordF1xx
(Post 16534292)
What will i have to do to make it fit?
There have been a few posts in the past where people have done things like this and were not able to smog and register their vehicles. If you have all the OEM stuff, you will probably be ok. It will be a gamble. Did your truck have cats as OEM? |
Originally Posted by 1976FordF1xx
(Post 16531302)
I recently got a 1978 ford f350 460/c6 supercab for free. The guy who gave it me said it had a bad intake. I personaly have a 1976 f100 that had a 302. Who hard would it be to swap the c6/460 into the f100? Thanks
OK a different line of questioning here: What, other than the "bad intake", is the status of the F350? Does it run? If not, I suggest you solve that issue now, before you do anything else... But wait--did you get a title to this truck? Is it otherwise serviceable? Why not make it a runner and drive it? Sure it's an F350 but that 460 is going to take the same amount of gas in the F100. The F350 has far better brakes and suspension than the F100. IMO you stand a good chance of sending both trucks to the scrappy via the engine change route. As a pessimist, I will of course be pleased to be proven wrong. |
Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
(Post 16534333)
Mounts on frame, exhaust, cooling, transmission mount, trans linkage, possible throttle linkage, PS connections if any, all the 1978 level engine emissions stuff including the cats.
There have been a few posts in the past where people have done things like this and were not able to smog and register their vehicles. If you have all the OEM stuff, you will probably be ok. It will be a gamble. Did your truck have cats as OEM? |
Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
(Post 16534343)
OK a different line of questioning here: What, other than the "bad intake", is the status of the F350? Does it run? If not, I suggest you solve that issue now, before you do anything else... But wait--did you get a title to this truck? Is it otherwise serviceable? Why not make it a runner and drive it? Sure it's an F350 but that 460 is going to take the same amount of gas in the F100. The F350 has far better brakes and suspension than the F100.
IMO you stand a good chance of sending both trucks to the scrappy via the engine change route. As a pessimist, I will of course be pleased to be proven wrong. |
With no cats required, you could increase compression, fiddle with a different cam and keep the engine appearing stock enough to pass even a legit smog inspection and end up with a runner for a lot less time and money vs. the 460 swap.
And remember, you may or may not get that 460 to run without a bunch of doing. |
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Originally Posted by 1976FordF1xx
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No OEM cats original. :-huh
Column left, scroll down to F100 2WD - 1975/76 302. |
And what Bill just posted is most likely what CA will look for in terms of emissions.
Worse, there's a chance you get pulled over on the highway, and they check and you're up the creek without a paddle }> |
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