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Tooleytool 06-01-2016 04:19 PM

1985 ford f150 300 inline 6 smog help
 
I had to buy a smog pump and evap can also picked up a vaccum can looks like a coffee can I have no idea how to connect everything or terminology please help I'm completely unfamiliar with the systems please help

Braggs 06-01-2016 04:41 PM

A "smog pump" is an air pump that is driven by the belts on the front of the engine usually mounted on the lower passenger side. It pumps air into the exhaust so the chemicals left over after the engine combusts the gasoline/air mixture will break down further in the catalytic converter.

The vacuum can (looks like a coffee can) is simply a vacuum reservoir. Basically an empty space that doesn't leak air. This can be connected to a vacuum distribution node (a block of plastic where a bunch of vacuum hoses connect, usually top passenger side of engine). The vacuum distribution node will need to connect to a vacuum source, usually the carburetor.

The Evap canister is for the gas fumes inside the fuel tank. Gasoline evaporates at room temperature. These gasses build up pressure inside the fuel tank. To ensure these gasses don't escape into the atmosphere, they have designed a way to "suck off" these gasses and feed them to the engine where they are burned like the rest of the fuel. So there is a vacuum line that runs from the fuel tank all the way to the engine compartment. There it goes through the evap cansiter, into another vacuum hose, and eventually into the engine via the carburetor.

Here's some pictures for you to look at:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...3ae197603f.gif

Smog/air pump diagram


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...14ca897abe.jpg

vacuum can location & distribution node


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...b3552bcf1e.gif

evap canister example

Gary Lewis 06-01-2016 05:45 PM

Good job, Braggs!

Tooleytool 06-01-2016 05:50 PM

Appreciate the feed back mine is carbureted and a little different I have a ton of hose I bought but not sure exactly where to hook them up ill get pictures of my engine see it might be more help

Gary Lewis 06-01-2016 05:56 PM

You should have a vacuum-routing diagram on the panel just ahead of the radiator on the passenger's side. If you can post a picture of that we can help. But, this page in the stickies provides a decoder: Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - View Single Post - Vacuum Diagram Acronyms

85e150 06-01-2016 06:07 PM

Did you just buy this truck without a smog?

on edit: No he didn't, see next post and................... well, never mind....

I did have an '85 E150. The computer was on the passenger side in the van, about as big as a fat laptop.

There were 4 (iirc) solenoid gizmos on the valve cover, and the miles of plastic tubing came and went in that area.

Good luck on this

Tooleytool 06-01-2016 08:59 PM

When I was growing up this is the truck I spent the most time with dad in hunting cutting wood sentimental priceless!! It sat in his back yard for ten years after he completely rebuilt it machined cleaned everything by the book except for during the 25 miles it has on the rebuild bad gas stuck valves he had to get to work so parked it non op and bought another truck.. A few weeks ago I asked about it he said you get it running its yours so 4 bent push rods four new tires master cylinder pinion seal new gear oil oil change plugs wires rotor cap new gas ( old gas drained and given away-10 gal) new seat here I am at the smog stuff I went to pick n pull and got a bunch of check valves gulp valve pump two different vac cans evap canister and a little starship voyager looking valve and Napa provided a lot of vacum lines I just don't know exactly what I need to use and where

Galendor 06-01-2016 09:22 PM

Vacuum diagram for 1986 F150 300-I6

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...83f9fbe4eb.jpg

The original smog systems that came on your truck weren't too complicated. They are/were controlled and monitored by a simple computer in the cab, near the gas pedal, with a few sensors and electric solenoids out in the engine bay.

Are the original smog parts still present in the truck? Or did your dad maybe remove them? Yes, pics of your engine bay would help us.

Galendor 06-01-2016 09:26 PM

Here's diagrams that shows some of the sensors, solenoids, and components that would be found on a stock 1986 300-I6.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...1b1bd6ced8.jpg


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...6d113b3e5b.jpg

Tooleytool 06-01-2016 11:36 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...e3447b4c96.jpg

Gary Lewis 06-02-2016 06:11 AM

About all that I can tell from that picture is that you do have the diagram. But it does look very similar to the one Galendor posted. So, we can use his if you can't get a better pic.

Tooleytool 06-02-2016 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Gary Lewis (Post 16327811)
You should have a vacuum-routing diagram on the panel just ahead of the radiator on the passenger's side. If you can post a picture of that we can help. But, this page in the stickies provides a decoder: Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - View Single Post - Vacuum Diagram Acronyms

Sorry about pic quality I've been admitted to the hospital so I had my gf go out and take pics which I really appreciate and she sent them to me I have 11 more for some reason won't let me post I paid the year subscription to idk keeps saying low memory

Gary Lewis 06-02-2016 08:04 AM

I've never had FTE say "low memory" so I suspect it is something to do with your mobile device. Are you clicking the yellow "postcard" icon, above, and choosing Browse Your Device?

Anyway, hospital? Hope it isn't too bad.

Tooleytool 06-02-2016 09:57 AM

I can email pics but can't upload have an infection in my throat if I hadn't went to er I wouldn't be typing this now but with iv antibiotics an operation and gods grace I'm getting better

Gary Lewis 06-02-2016 10:07 AM

God is good.

Email me the pics and I'll post. Just click on the "Gary Lewis" and choose "Send email".


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