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AllAboutTL 10-31-2010 10:34 PM

Shift motor transfer case harness different - 98 Navigator
 
All,

I'm replacing the shift motor on the transfer case and wire harnesses connectors are different than this.
http://info.rockauto.com/getimage/ge...8/48207-01.jpg

The connector on the Navi has 13 pins I believe, this unit has 7 and a different size. What gives?

Thanks,
Jack in Ohio

Moto Mel 11-01-2010 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by AllAboutTL (Post 9504025)
All,

I'm replacing the shift motor on the transfer case and wire harnesses connectors are different than this.
http://info.rockauto.com/getimage/ge...8/48207-01.jpg

The connector on the Navi has 13 pins I believe, this unit has 7 and a different size. What gives?

Thanks,
Jack in Ohio

Most likely they gave you the wrong motor. Take a pic with your cel phone of your plug to show them.
Are you certain your motor is bad?

Moto Mel 11-01-2010 12:49 PM

I just looked at the pics on Advace's site for mine and it shows the same motor. Which trans do you have, 4R70W or 4R100? It may make a difference.

AllAboutTL 11-01-2010 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Moto Mel (Post 9505711)
I just looked at the pics on Advace's site for mine and it shows the same motor. Which trans do you have, 4R70W or 4R100? It may make a difference.

I believe the early 98's have the e4od. I haven't bought or removed yet, and no, the motor is not entirely toast. Once I disconnected the battery and reset the electronics, it started working again. I'd just like to replace since the case is rust through etc.

trsimmons25 11-01-2010 09:44 PM

Now the fun begins! I had run into the same thing on my expy. the auto 4x4 complicates things a little, the extra wires are due to the a4wd. I had a friend get me a wiring diagram and I had to pull the wires from the old plug and switch them to the new plug. The shift motors at all the local parts houses have the same listing for the one shift motor. Pay very close attention to what wire comes from where, it took me two or three tries until I got it right. Use a pick tool to pull out the red wire retainer thingy from the plug and the wires pull right out.

AllAboutTL 11-01-2010 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by trsimmons25 (Post 9507832)
Now the fun begins! I had run into the same thing on my expy. the auto 4x4 complicates things a little, the extra wires are due to the a4wd. I had a friend get me a wiring diagram and I had to pull the wires from the old plug and switch them to the new plug. The shift motors at all the local parts houses have the same listing for the one shift motor. Pay very close attention to what wire comes from where, it took me two or three tries until I got it right. Use a pick tool to pull out the red wire retainer thingy from the plug and the wires pull right out.

Ahh, OK, the pins pull-out and transfer to the new connector? Do you mean they transfer to the old connector? The picture looks like a smaller dedicated connector, so hopefully, the pins pull-out of the new, and get inserted into the old connector. Ya, this could get ugly. I'll check-out the new part connector's and see if choices are available.

Thank you,
Jack in Ohio

Moto Mel 11-02-2010 09:24 AM

You might look at a newer model Navigator or Expedition's motor and connector.

AllAboutTL 11-03-2010 10:02 PM

Misson Accomplished
 
Well, thanks to guidance from all of you, and this video from 1AAuto on YouTube, my transfer case shift motor replacement is complete and working. The trick as trsimmons25 explained above, is popping out the wires from the old connector and inserting them into the new connector. Watch the video and you'll have confidence to proceed. YouTube - 1AAuto.com Replace Fix 4WD 4x4 Transfer Case Shift Motor Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 1995-01

After removing the red collar with a pair of needle nose, use a small pointed object, such as a jewelers screw driver, and release the tab inside the connector for any given pin whilst gently pulling the wire from the rear. (you can practice on the new connector before starting) Pull out pins (old connector) and insert into the new connector in the same position until it clicks into place. I roughed-in the new motor in-place, while the old motor hung, just to make the pin transfer process easier.

Once all the pins are transferred, I used blue RTV gasket material on the encoder end and bolted in permanently. Everything else is straight forward.

I bought an OEM motor to avoid any hassle with wrong connector, Chinese crap etc. The OEM part (YL1Z-7G360-AA) was ~$250 (made in Korea). After market could be had for ~$100 or less on ebay from 1AAuto www.1aautomotive.com

Thanks,
Jack in Ohio


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