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Otahyoni 08-07-2010 05:45 PM

New bed
 
What do you think?


Before:
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Middle:
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Otahyoni 08-07-2010 05:47 PM

I've got the old taillights if someone need them...

oreocreaming 08-07-2010 05:59 PM

your not done yet are ya? if it were me, id get either flat stock steel or aluminum. maybe 4 or 6" wide just to run under the strips to hide the cross pieces. would clean it up nice.

oreocreaming 08-07-2010 05:59 PM

maybe a custom rear bumper OR lift yours to match up with the bed better.

WarOzz 08-07-2010 07:11 PM

Ditto on what oreo said and put a headache rack on it :D

ihateminimumwage 08-07-2010 07:29 PM

I agree you should frame it out using steel. I look at 100% wood flatbeds the same way I look at PVC headache racks, and I curse Home Depot for their existence... :-X15

Since you didn't use pressure treated, you should pick up a can of deck stain & sealer and roll the whole thing with it. Otherwise that wood's going to go straight to hell when the rainy season hits. It'll also darken it up, keep it from getting shredded when you put anything on there, and make it look 1000x better.

Worst case if you don't want to lift the bumper to match, use a piece of 1x8 or 1x10 bolted on the back to fill the gap.

elinmon1976 08-07-2010 07:50 PM

That looks good, I agree with the census here though. I used treated wood and framed the edges and cross supports with angle iron. The diamond plate aluminum I used I bought at my scrap yard. Word of wisdom though, that aluminum is HARD to cut. If you don't have a plasma cutter, the only thing you can use is a carbide tipped framing blade on a skill saw. Plan on using about four or five of them though....
I would have rather used steel and painted it. I think that would have been easier.

I still haven't gotten my headache rack built or my fuel fill tubes relocated right.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f5...r/DSCN1005.jpg

elinmon1976 08-07-2010 07:51 PM

A note.....don't do the sides like this.....Makes it hard to get the wheels on and off.....

Otahyoni 08-07-2010 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by oreocreaming (Post 9194284)
your not done yet are ya? if it were me, id get either flat stock steel or aluminum. maybe 4 or 6" wide just to run under the strips to hide the cross pieces. would clean it up nice.

I'm planning on putting something there soon as i figure out what to do with the filler neck...


Originally Posted by oreocreaming (Post 9194288)
maybe a custom rear bumper OR lift yours to match up with the bed better.

At some point i'm gonna make a bumper/hitch for the rear and eventually the front.


Originally Posted by WarOzz (Post 9194452)
Ditto on what oreo said and put a headache rack on it :D

It'll get something cause i want stacks...


Originally Posted by ihateminimumwage (Post 9194500)
I agree you should frame it out using steel. I look at 100% wood flatbeds the same way I look at PVC headache racks, and I curse Home Depot for their existence... :-X15
Harsh toke Dude... :p
Since you didn't use pressure treated, you should pick up a can of deck stain & sealer and roll the whole thing with it. Otherwise the that wood's going to go straight to hell when the rainy season hits. It'll also darken it up, keep it from getting shredded when you put anything on there, and make it look 1000x better.
The 4x4's are treated, but the rest will get deck sealer in the near future.
Worst case if you don't want to lift the bumper to match, use a piece of 1x8 or 1x10 bolted on the back to fill the gap.
See above. That bumper is going to go away...

Question: Is 1/4 steel enough for the side plates on a V5 hitch?

I was looking at hitches and all the ones i saw V5 rated had 1/4" steel sides... And the plate that was in the bed is 1/4"...


Ihateminimumwage (me too:D), would you feel better if i trimmed the sides and back with 3"x3"x1/8" angle iron?

I need something to put stake pockets on anyway...

The original plan was a steel frame with 3/4" plywood decking, but i did this because of money limits... The hybrid bed may still get built someday...

Coccyx 08-07-2010 07:56 PM

Maybe you're planning to put fenders on there, and box sides? I did that with my Toyota years ago. got some fenders cheap (I think they were for utility trailers). Got 4 of them and doubled them up/welded together 2 on each side for required width. Then just cut a square cutout on y our wood bed, cram the fenders up in there and lag screw them in. It felt kind of mickeymouse when I was doing it but it's been tough and ran that way a long time with no trouble. Not sure if the Ford would need the suspension travel that my yota did, though. I also used P/T wood and framed up box sides so I could put on my stock canopy and boat rack.
:)
I like trucks like this....

Otahyoni 08-07-2010 08:02 PM

Thanks man. I might hang some conveyor belting on the 4x4 behind the tires, but i doubt i'll do any cutting on the bed for fenders.

Definatley needs sides and a headboard though...

WarOzz 08-07-2010 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by elinmon1976 (Post 9194555)
If you don't have a plasma cutter, the only thing you can use is a carbide tipped framing blade on a skill saw. Plan on using about four or five of them though....

Either you had really really cheap blades or you didn't use any form of lubrication/coolant. We cut aluminum everyday at work, including pre anodized 6060 T6 aircraft aluminum on a chop saw with an $80 carbide tipped blade. I send that blade out about twice a year to be sharpened and we cut a LOT of material on it. The best lubricant/coolant to use is good ol wd40, just a shot of it right on the teeth every so often will keep the aluminum from welding itself to the carbide tips and cause the blade to go dull. We use a table saw in the same fashion for cutting bigger sheets.

elinmon1976 08-07-2010 08:20 PM

Yeah Warr....I had REALLY cheap blades.....no lube.....

We had no clue what we were doing....

I tried sawsall blades of all types but no lube. I wondered if the poly in the aluminum makes a difference?
It's funny, I work on the other side of metal so I know what type of aluminum and other non ferrous metals are but no clue how to work with them.

Thanks for the tip man....Still have a lot of cutting to do on this thing....

ihateminimumwage 08-07-2010 08:45 PM

Frame that thing out and install stake pockets :-X22. No real point in a flatbed without options to add sides or have tie down points available when need be...
Sounds like you've laid out your plans for it, and it should be a good solid flatbed when it's done.

I'll never take back my stance on Home Depot, and the abominations it provides people the supplies to create...:D

Rick Wallace 08-07-2010 08:52 PM

It looks way yonder better than all that rust,its a good starting point ,you can always add and modify later,however I do wish it were pressure treated wood,like already stated some good stain/sealer is a must. Put it in a pump up spray bottle and soak the snot out of it........

oreocreaming 08-07-2010 08:58 PM

1/4" will be fine, but why not just go 3/8? its a little overkill but better to be over done then under done. i went 1/2" on mine, with 3x6x1/2" cross bar. it weighs about 150 lbs but my frame will fall off before that thing goes. if you go to a metal place, they will usually sell scrap pieces. you can get a remnant piece of sheet. you pay per pound. think mine cost me about a dollar a lb when all was said and done. the receiver tube has to be specific size. tell them you want it and they will sell it by the ft. think it was about 11 bucks a ft here.

poocher pup 08-07-2010 09:08 PM

yes put in sprayer and do the bottom where you can also. i saw al. sheet with the cheapest plywood blades i can find and run them backwards on cir. saw. works great for me.

Otahyoni 08-07-2010 09:20 PM

I can buy pre-made receiver tubes at TSC.

I'm asking about 1/4" cause i already have it. With some 1/4" plate and a 3 1/2" pipe doubled up i think i can make a nice (and free) bumper.

LCAM-01XA 08-07-2010 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by callebrook (Post 9194876)
:-spam:-spam:-spam:-newbie

Uhm, what now?

On the bed - looks good as is, not too sure about framing it tho, but do add some sort of stake pockets to the sides and/or eye-bolts to the floor for tying things up - heck I got 1/2" eye-bolts in my bed, and it's a factory pickup bed that switches duty between camper and 5th wheel as needed.

LCAM-01XA 08-07-2010 09:44 PM

lol, lay off the bottle there man, or ya risk ending up like me (and that ain't no good thing, I assure ya) :p

Dave Sponaugle 08-07-2010 10:49 PM

Framing the sides and rear with steel would be the easiest way to put stake pockets on the sides and back.

Those along with a headache rack or at least a bed front will be needed if you plan on hauling anything and have it make it to where you are going unless you tie down each piece.

If you go the tie down route, add plenty of tie downs so you have enough.

FORDF250HDXLT 08-08-2010 06:54 AM

looking good.that old bed had enough a couple years ago id say.:D

Otahyoni 08-08-2010 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by LCAM-01XA (Post 9194895)
Uhm, what now?

On the bed - looks good as is, not too sure about framing it tho, but do add some sort of stake pockets to the sides and/or eye-bolts to the floor for tying things up - heck I got 1/2" eye-bolts in my bed, and it's a factory pickup bed that switches duty between camper and 5th wheel as needed.

Thanks LCAM, Thanks really what i wanted to hear. My last truck with an all metal bed had (4) 1/2" eye bolts in the corners and it worked well. I thought the bed looked good on that truck too.

I'll have to find a pic of it...


Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle (Post 9195151)
Framing the sides and rear with steel would be the easiest way to put stake pockets on the sides and back.

Those along with a headache rack or at least a bed front will be needed if you plan on hauling anything and have it make it to where you are going unless you tie down each piece.

If you go the tie down route, add plenty of tie downs so you have enough.

I'm sure i'll add some tie downs, but the plan is 10-12" tall sides (semi-permanent) and front. Thought it would be easier, 3" angle is about $3 a foot (that's an old price).

I'm gonna have to do some thinking on how to make some secure sides that will look good with whats already there...


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