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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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looking for a lift f350/excurison same lift?

my buddy has a 00 Ex he is looking for a 3'' or 4'' lift. he can only find a couple that say the are for Ex. would a lift for a F350/F250 superduty fit the Ex? he does not want a lift with a mini pack or add a leaf up front he would like one with new front springs. he found a good deal on a 4" lift of a 99 superduty would it fit?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Would probably work, but may give you a little more lift on the Ex.
Try ebay or 4wheelparts.com should be able to find a lift in the size you want in a variety of prices.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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are V10 and diesel lift the same springs. what would be different between an Ex and a F250/350?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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i've seen some kits that will put a heavier spring in for the diesel, but i don't think most do.
the spring rates(letter) on the Ex vs 250/350 is different - resulting in the pickups sitting higher in the fronts and different ride feel. The pickups also have a taller block in the rear.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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V10 and Diesel lifts are the same. F series lifts will work on the Ex but will give you 2 more inchs. So a 4" on a F series will give you 6" on the EX.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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FALSE all gas a diesel lifts are NOT THE SAME. some mfg's have different part number for a reason, the spring packs are heavier duty on the diesles than the V8/V10's.... most mfg's will ask you when ordeing a lift "gas or diesel" either on the phone or at SOME TIME threw out ordering them online.

for a fact i have tried a V10 (gaser lift) on a 7.3L diesel, and it will squash and or buckle the spring packs.....

you can use a diesel lift on a gas, but not a gas lift on a diesel. the gasers arn't as picky as the diesels. pretty much either of the lifts will work for a gaser, but double check part numbers when it involves a diesel.....
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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That's weird. I just went to Skyjacker's website and the part # for 5.4 is the same as the 6.8 and the 7.3. Wonder who's wrong here, the manufactor or a random internet user.......

Here is the proof incase you are wondering where I got my information.

http://www.skyjacker.com/products/pr..._submodel=BASE
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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Why in the world would you get MORE lift when using it on an Excursion. The body is MUCH heavier. From what I recall, it is the other way around. You get LESS lift when you use an F250/350 lift on an Excursion.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsta
Why in the world would you get MORE lift when using it on an Excursion. The body is MUCH heavier. From what I recall, it is the other way around. You get LESS lift when you use an F250/350 lift on an Excursion.
Ok, lets think about this.

Have you ever heard of anyone taking the factory V and B code springs off of a F250/350 to do a cheap lift on a Excursion? Search it and you find some threads about it. I don't think i've ever heard of anyone wanting the factory springs off of a excursion to lift there F-series truck. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Besides sit a factory F-series next to a factory excursion and the truck will dorf the ex everytime.

Make a phone call to Pro-Comp and you find out I'm right.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostcrazy99
Ok, lets think about this.

Have you ever heard of anyone taking the factory V and B code springs off of a F250/350 to do a cheap lift on a Excursion? Search it and you find some threads about it. I don't think i've ever heard of anyone wanting the factory springs off of a excursion to lift there F-series truck. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Besides sit a factory F-series next to a factory excursion and the truck will dorf the ex everytime.

Make a phone call to Pro-Comp and you find out I'm right.
A lift is a lift, right?

It doesn't matter what the static height of the truck being listed is to begin with. If the lift is advertised as a 4" lift, it'll lift a truck approx. 4". If that truck is heavier than the one it was originally intended for it won't lift it as much as the springs will sag under the weight.

Your example is rubbish. But thanks for playing.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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nto sure i am a truck man, and i will not ever have a pro comp lift again. that is just me. but back to the question. The Ex has a lower factory ride than a F250/F350. so a 4'' lift will still only lift you 4'' above factory. unless you put a diesel lift in a gasser(5.4- not sure about 6.8V10) then it would give you more lift but a very stiff ride. DO to the fact that you are not putting the weight on the spring they are made for?
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsta
A lift is a lift, right?

It doesn't matter what the static height of the truck being listed is to begin with. If the lift is advertised as a 4" lift, it'll lift a truck approx. 4". If that truck is heavier than the one it was originally intended for it won't lift it as much as the springs will sag under the weight.

Your example is rubbish. But thanks for playing.
Ok boy genius explain this.

6" F250 lift will clear 37"
6" Excursion lift will clear 35"

So please explain to me my why you can only fit 35's on an excursion with the same amount of lift as a F250 with 37's?

Here it is in black and white, straight from procomp's website.
http://www.explorerprocomp.com/PDFs/07cat/28-43.pdf

Excursion 6" lift
Front box kit # K4018B
Rear box kit # K4018BMX

F250 4" lift
Front box kit # K4018B
Rear box Kit # K4018BMX

Can't wait to see you dig yourself out of this one. By the way, I work in this industry day in, day out.

 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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so when i called superlift and they said "no they are not the same spring pack, the diesel has one more spring than the gas".......... i guess their the screwed up one, and some no name jo bob who "works in the industry" knows better ......... so since you work in the industry...... location, shop, products installed per day, hours spent on each super duty/excursion would be nice to know...... or are you the one that takes the calls and puts in part numbers and lets the other guys install them??????

i've installed a diesel lift on a gas..... will not get you a good result...................

this is strait from the SUPER LIFT web site DUD....... o i'm sorry DUDE
"
6" Lift System (Gas)

The 6" lift system uses replacement Select series front springs. Different weight-rated front springs are offered for both gas V-8 and heavier diesel and V-10 engine equipped trucks. Heavier springs are needed for the larger power plants' increased weight, while the lighter-rated gas versions considerable improve the less weighty truck's ride quality. These lifts utilize new Urethane compression travel stops for the front; the factory rear stops are relocated. The 6" kit uses a dropped pitman arm for steering correction, and the track bar is lowered to keep it in phase with the drag link."

on now that i have you punk card, and your pro-crap......... i mean comp stats have been shot down...........

your up buddy, you want the guys name from superlift that i talked to, or do you just want to re-read the BIG BOLD writing again.........
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostcrazy99
Ok boy genius explain this.

6" F250 lift will clear 37"
6" Excursion lift will clear 35"

So please explain to me my why you can only fit 35's on an excursion with the same amount of lift as a F250 with 37's?
You've just proven my point!

Here's the answer for you...from a genius!


Because the Excursion is heavier!
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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boy....... mods i may get my hand slapped for this one.........

you think this site is full of dumb ***** and we just post stuff up here cause we "think" that's what it is...... or you think some of us, or majority, MIGHT just have an inkling of what the he77 we freakin talkin about....... man you got my nutz fired up tonight..... i deal with bosses that sit in an office and think they know how to fix heavy equipment, and are supposed to "manage" when the "INDUSTRY" they are in, they can't even do a simple rack adjustment (valve adjustment) on a cummins N14, and then got on one of the BEST informative web site out there, and there's a no name guy calling out one of the former mods and respected member saying that (well in so many words) he's an idiot........

i'll give you one thing you got intestinal fortitude.....so lets have at it...... what do you have to counter act the intelligence of the mfg's at superlift..........
 
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