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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Convert EFI to 4 barrel carb

I am by far no mechanic, but I was wondering if any one had any rough estimates on how much it would cost to convert my 985 F-150 with a 302 with electronic fuel injection to a 4 barrel carb system. Also, what are some of the pros and cons of doing so?

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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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I'm guessing that's a 1985 F150?

Cost? You need a carb and intake, distributor, ignition system, and fuel system mods. Then you also need to rewire some of the dash gauges.

Cons: Cost and labor involved.

Pros: There are none, it's a lot of work for something that will deliver no more power and worse engine operation.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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What, no Pros at all?

How about the carburetor's immunity to Electro-Magnetic Pulse radiation (EMP)? A carbureted system with points will be virtually impervious to EMP caused by a nearby nuclear explosion, whereas the EFI circuitry will be toast!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Now that was funny!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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I never thought of that ??? Im going to go get my holley before they sell out !!!!.. & alot of ammo ... Lew
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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Well the advantage of a carburated system is simplicity. So if you already have a functioning EFI system, it isn't simpler to regress to a carb.

Starting with no induction setup, it's simpler to gather the pieces for a carburated system.

I'm kind of surprised that a 1985 F150 is fuel injected. Is that the dreaded CFI system?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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No '85 was the first year for MFI on the 5.0 in trucks, the system has a few minor differences from the later MFI setup but visually looks very close.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by lew52
Im going to go get my holley before they sell out !!!!.. & alot of ammo ... Lew
Now that's funny... there's going to be a nearby nuclear explosion and your first... err second though it to buy more ammo?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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if theres a nuclear explosion i think the last thing im worried about is my electronics still working. even my 70 dodge wont start although its carbureted it still has an electronic ignition. so unless your going to a very primitive carbureted setup youll still be toast. on the other hand if there is a nuclear explosion heres what you should do: go in your car, when you realize it doesnt start just curl up into a ball and kiss your *** goodbye.

a carburetor isnt going to help you if you cant breath.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Now that's funny... there's going to be a nearby nuclear explosion and your first... err second though it to buy more ammo?
I dont worry to much about that ... I know you got my back !! Lew
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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I dont worry to much about that ... I know you got my back !! Lew
That's right.. I'll be right down there to guard your truck.. might even have to take it away and hide it "somewhere"..
 
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Yeah i know you would be burning the tires off it...I wish i could take you for a ride in it!!! You would like it... Lew
 
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I've got to disagree with you here. I converted my 86 Bronco and a friends 90 Bronco from FI to a Holley carb and gained power. When I was running the FI I was getting 10-11 miles to the gallon the Holley 4 barrel gave me 13-14 If I kept my foot out of it. I will say its a major pain in the tail, not so much the switch over Edelbrock intake bolted right up but breaking down the wiring harness to get rid of the FI (which wasn't really necessary) and hooking up a regulator with restrictor back to the tank took some time. Later Whit

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I'm guessing that's a 1985 F150?

Cost? You need a carb and intake, distributor, ignition system, and fuel system mods. Then you also need to rewire some of the dash gauges.

Cons: Cost and labor involved.

Pros: There are none, it's a lot of work for something that will deliver no more power and worse engine operation.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by broncoman85
I've got to disagree with you here. I converted my 86 Bronco and a friends 90 Bronco from FI to a Holley carb and gained power. When I was running the FI I was getting 10-11 miles to the gallon the Holley 4 barrel gave me 13-14
The EFI system should also deliver mid teens milage so something was wrong. Those used to dealing with carbs like to revert to what they know which is too bad since the EFI system isn't really that complicated and has built-in self diagnostics.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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carb on 5.0

I put a carb on a 95 5.0 since the wiring harness was chopped at the computer plug. Wouldn't start cold (20 deg) unless plugs opened up to .060", requiring pertronix coil. Hot coil would short out across 64 mustang distributor cap in wet weather, no start. Changed to 81 big cap electronic distributor. Ran okay a couple of years, got 6 mpg city 8mpg highway in 4200 lb vehicle. Started stalling after 30 seconds, took me 3 months to figure out the carb was dropping out, not the spark. (Used ac voltmeter on coil lead). Changed to an 81 4.2L v8, same carb works fine, 19 mpg on 4200 lb car. Fuel injection cam has too much duration or overlap for a carb on a heavy street vehicle.
 
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