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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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Fresh Air Breathing Setup for Painting?

I need to get a fresh-air breathing setup for automotive painting use. I have been thinking about getting one that has a full face mask and uses air supplied by same compressor used for painting. Anyone use one of these setups before and know if this is the way to go for a home hobbiest?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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You can get the ones that use compressor supplied air but you will need a LARGE compressor to keep up with your paint gun AND the breathing apparatus. I have also read about possible problems with this type setup.

If you are only wanting it for occasional and not every day use, look into the ones on EBAY. You can get one with its own air source and a hood for about $330 or so. The same one with a full face mask if that is what you prefer is a little more.

I plan on getting one of these in a few months when I get to the bc/cc portion of my project.

Hope this helps,
 
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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I'll check out eBay and see what they have to offer. I really need the full face mask. I was painting the interior yesterday and my eyes were starting to get irritated from the paint fumes.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 06:52 AM
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Try this out Cujo. Looks like they customize it for your needs using your shop air, they probably have a wealth of knowledge aswell.

http://www.finishsystems.com/freshair.html
 
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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The Hood will protect your eyes every bit as good as a full face mask. Remember, you are talking about a pressurized area, not a sealed respirator. The air is flowing through and out of the hood, so nothing can get in.

I posted the question on a pro painters forum and most of them preferred a hood to a full face mask for protection as well as visibility. The hood also protects your neck and the rest of your hood so you don't have to wear a painters head sock.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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The Hood will protect your eyes every bit as good as a full face mask. Remember, you are talking about a pressurized area, not a sealed respirator. The air is flowing through and out of the hood, so nothing can get in.

I posted the question on a pro painters forum and most of them preferred a hood to a full face mask for protection as well as visibility. The hood also protects your neck and the rest of your hood so you don't have to wear a painters head sock.
So the air for the the hood is provided by the same air compressor I'm using for painting? My compressor is spec'd to deliver 19.4CFM@100psi, so I'm thinking it will have enough air for both HVLP and the breathing air supply. I'm thinking the hood idea is better for people who wear glasses like myself. I'm thinking the positive air flow will also keep my glasses from getting fogged up. Do you have any recommendations as to what setup I should look into buying? Thanks.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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You really do not want to use air from a compressor. You will get oil vapor and particulates, not good. If you have a seperate oil less compress yes. I have used Scott's air pack (HAZMAT) system, and the dry air will dry you out real bad. Started use lossenges to try to counter act them. We had our cylinders filled at the local fire dept. Grainger has a fresh air system that works pretty good. A friend of mine got it and loved it. They also make a system that you wear around your waste so you don't have to mess with a hose.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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There are several good economy systems that include a hood, hose and the air compressor for between $300 and $400. HobbyAir is one manufacturer and there is another one that is always on ebay. Just go to ebay and search fresh air breathing apparatus or some such.

Yes, the hood does work better for those of us with spectacles. It also offers better visibility, complete head and neck protection and I think is even a few dollars cheaper than a mask.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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i was a prof firefighter for years and would not wear a mask when a pressurized hood is available. Keeps everything cool with the fresh air.

I have a decent sized hipa air filter for a house that i'm going to convert...i like doing that kind of stuff. If it was made for 800 sq' i imagion it should work fine...no one to blame if i bite the dust though....

a pressurized hood...thats the way to go glasses or not.

also you will not get decent air out of a typical air compressor so there had best be a good filtration system on your waste and what does that cost to keep?

The size is ok...your gun will eat 15-17 cfm @ 35-40 psi or so ...
 

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:41 AM
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I dont see how that could work how does the compressor filter the air it is sucking in?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapyardking
I dont see how that could work how does the compressor filter the air it is sucking in?

The air compressor only has two small automotive style air cleaners on it to filter the in coming air. Any fresh air breathing system should also have it's own organic/particulate filters to clean your breathing air before it gets to the user.

After looking into this I am looking at dedicated fresh air breathing system that is using it's own compressor to deliver the breathing air to the hood. You need to locate the breathing air compressor in a location that has fresh air when you use it. My shop compressor is only separated from my painting area by a plastic sheet, so I know the paint fumes are still getting to the shop compressor. That is why I'm going with the system that has it's own compressor that I can locate away from the fumes.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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cujo,

I'm glad to see that you are doing your due dilligence in researching this piece of equipment since it has to do with your health and well being. If you flubbed up a paint job by not doing good research it would be frustrating, messing up your health or killing yourself would, of course, be much worse.

The apparatus that I have my eye on has a pressurized hood and it's own compressor as you describe. There are several that are under $400. Please share with us what you decide on and I will do the same in this thread in a few months. The one I am now looking at is by a company called HobbyAir.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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3M has a self contained unit, no need for a external compressor. 3M# GVP PAPR Kit 07190. They're a little pricy though, best price I could find is around $900.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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i work in a body shop and i know what you guys are talking about but i have always seen a smaller air compressor that was just made for your breathing air and had filter on it ..but thats just what i've seen ...but those system are nice ...for me its drys my eyes out
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Yes, I can see that using one all day long would dry your eyes out. I guess that's better than having them closed permanently.
 
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