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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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Question Rotor Removal HELP!!!!! You've got to be kidding!

1997 Expedition.....
Having just changed the rotors on my friends 2001, I figured my 1997 would be no brainer!

I've tried all the obvious methods including sledge, torch heat, PB spray lubricant and even a gear puller which broke the outer edge of the rotor completely and damn near gave me a black eye when it popped off, hitting me in the face.

Are you sure I'm not missing something here? Big center spindle bolt, tack welds or something? I"m gonna break something if I hit it much harder with the sledge.

Can you cut these things off?

Anyone?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Do a search for brake job, I just did the brakes on my 02, had a tough time but with a torch and a BFH i got it done.

Some folks have used a die cutter or dremel tool to cut the rotor between the lug nuts to relieve pressure. Others have use a 1/2 in bolt in the backing plate holes along with a nut to apply pressure on the rotor from behind...

I wish you luck...and be sure to coat the new rotors w/ anti seize compound it helps to reduce the chance of it happening again.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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I used a 5lb hammer to beat on the rotor, after 30 minutes it came off.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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rotor removal

Do a search - use trucker22 or search for rotor---you will find much advice---the bolt trick through the caliper support bracket works like a dream--no cutter or sledge needed in my 2000 with 65K on it in WI---good luck
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Heh, Just did the brakes on my mustang that has 101k on it. Rotors wouldnt come off for nothin using a puller and/or hammer. But just a few minutes working an air chisel around it and it popped off.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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I have a hard time keeping mine on when I'm working around my front end. In other words nothing really keeps them on other than the wheels.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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I have a hard time keeping mine on when I'm working around my front end. In other words nothing really keeps them on other than the wheels.
Um... wouldn't the caliper hold them in place?

Anyway, I guess I was lucky. I replaced all four rotors a couple months ago and they just popped right off. Nothing other than a little tug with my hands was required.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Um... wouldn't the caliper hold them in place?
The calipers & mounting brackets keep them from falling to the ground, but they don't hold the rotors on with any tension, only the wheels do this.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Rotor observation

An interesting observation---yes the rotors are loose and held in place by the wheel usually. When pulling the wheel the pads hold it on but if its not tight to the hub the rotor will wiggle---therein lies the problem---I had a car once when I rotated the tires the rotors wiggled---no big deal. I torqued the wheels on. Went for ride---thought the brakes were gonna fall off! Terrible noises. Long story short, the back of the rotors had chunks of rust falling down to the bottom of the hub and the rust chunks interfered with the rotor tightening up evenly (flat) to the hub! So the rotor wobbled on the hub even though the wheel was bolted up tight! Took us sometime to figure this out---the lesson learned is remove those rotors clean the back side and apply small amount of rust proofing or Never Seize to prevent the back side from building up rust deposits that can either cause it to seize to the hub or cause problems when rotating tires.

Hope this helps someone out there!
 
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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I've had to wedge a piece of metal between the rotor and the control arm... start up the engine, turn the wheel, and let the power steering do the work...

If that doesn't work you're up the creek! hehe
 
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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I do several brake jobs a day, what works for me and the guys I work with is use a 32 oz ball peen and give the rotor hat a few really good whacks between the studs then go around the back and beat the hell out of it, and I mean put your purse down and hit it! It might come apart in pieces but it works. Never needed a torch, and they use plenty salt up here brother!
 
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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I like using a dead blow hammer on the ones i've changed. Dead blow hammers have a hard plastic head on them so they don't hurt the rotor. Sometimes you have to act like your an Gorila and someone stole your banana. Good luck.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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It took a 45 pound solid metal wedge axe (a heavy metal triangle welded to a metal handle), a blowtorch, tons of lubricant, and three friends helping to beat the front rotors for 3 hours before we were able to remove them. My Expy only has 85K on it. We pounded on the front and rear of the rotors too.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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On my 97 EB Epy I just traded in June I had the rotors replaced in 2004 for the second time. I had a garage do it that I thought was pretty reputable and they told me it took 6 hrs of beating and cutting on the rotor to get it off.. I was worried about the heat from the torch but it seemed ok after.. Not a nice thing to have to do..
Good luck dude and watch your teeth when those puppies come off it seems like the world is coming withit..
 
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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I have changed out several sets of rotors on Expy's and one set on my truck. I just take a pry bar or good sized screwdriver and pry on the back side of the rotor while tappping on the front of the rotor and center of the spindle. Usually it pops right off after 8-10 licks. The rotor is being held to the front of the spindle by rust not the ceter hole. And it always pays to sand the spindle before re-install.
 
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