I might be wrong ,but i think the media encourages this, by continuosly covering these stories of troubled teens which in turn shows the other weak minded kids in the country the idea of being famous or known (going out with a punch). this can be dangerous espacially in an environment where we have "rambos" for heros and parents who own guns but never get to teach they're kids what guns can do.i so believe that a boy who grows up with guns and has shot and killed stuff grows up to respect life more and that attachment to the gun will fade as all things do.
On the other hand the boy whos never be openly exposed to a firearm tends to have less knowledge of the firearm and what the realities associated with the gun,worst is the hiden affair with the firearm, doing stuff behind the parents back is a drug when you always get away with it so now you got a boy who knows nothing about a gun with an itch to shot but no knowledge of killing.this together with the publicity can be dangerous, cause if they are still talking about the stupid kinds today then whaooo we can be famous.
hey this is my take i think they need to stop giving dumb stuff time on the air.

 

I believe it has nothing to do with media coverage or firearms.

How about some children have a tendency towards evil and can not resist it? The two boys executed a girl as she was praying to God and he mocked her for believing in God before shooting her, didn't he? Sounds evil to me.

Though I think the prescribed drugs the kid was taking, along with the kid feeling like a loser might have played a part in it.

 

There was a very good article on this just yesterday on MSNBC.

The quick and dirty was that Harris was a clinical psychopath. Simply a time bomb waiting to go off. Klebold was more or less a troubled kid with a slightly manic-depressive personality that was largely just along for the ride.

The current theory based on these diagnosises is that they (Harris basically) did it not out of revenge for feeling like losers, but to pull off the largest, most well thought out attack on the "stupid" American people ever.

Very interesting article.

Waxy

 

I do believe the media sensationalizes these events far too much, keeps bringing them back to life as such. I certainly don't want people to forget, but the media hypes themselves as the great healing force, with their feigned sensitivity and concern. Having met a few of the parents of Columbine survivors, I grieve with them, but believe letting them alone, and keeping the lights, camera, action garbage at bay. An acquaintance of mine had 2 kids, one in the kitchen and one in the library at Columbine. Luckily they were not physically hurt. He has refused to allow the media ANY access to his kids. Smart man. Although they are still haunted by this atrocious act, and probably will be for the rest of their lives, they are adjusting quite well.

 

i think there has to be some sort of seperartion from creating memorials for the victims and hailing the bad guys ,the idea of having done something that will be remebered every year in the press and tv is reason enough for those who seek attention. so i say have memorials for the victims and DON'T give the bad guys any airtime whatsoever.the same with the police chases ,the bad guy knows he's going down but not without a fight and what the heck i am gona be on tv tonight ,which in turn he gets his props in the gage.. leave the people alone i say and get on with life.

 

I cant speak for columbine but i can for the 9/11 attacks. I lived in NYC at the time, had friends on scene as rescuers etc , some working there and lost a few acquaintances in the terror attack. In addition my kids were traumatized due to their school filling with smoke, and where i was working i was engulfed in the dust as the cloud attacked brooklyn. I say never let anyone forget so people dont be come complacent and allow this type of garbage to happen again. Of course the liberals will say forgive and forget, but thats something i could never do... heck as far as im concerned these kind of things are just as atrocious as the holocaust and slavery to the people directly affected by those events ( although the holocaust and slavery lasted years and the attacks we are talking about were short in comparison, but their impact to some was just as great) I think until you have to live through something like one of these events, you never completely understand it, and for those who never have had to live through that kind of thing first hand... thank your lucky stars and enoy the feeling, i wish i could be so lucky

 

Its being rehashed as the media is seeing the opportunity to extend the AWB dimishing with passing of time in this session of congress.


As for Harris, he was disgusted with the morons around him. These are not the rantings of an angry young man, picked on by jocks until he's not going to take it anymore. These are the rantings of someone with a messianic-grade superiority complex, out to punish the entire human race for its appalling inferiority. Basicly his classmates where morons for not recognizing him for the superior being he saw himself as. A couple extra swats across the @$$ as a child might have brought his self esteem more in line with his capabilities. Instead his parents where so out of touch with reality they didn't even know they where raising a megalomaniac, then they turned him loose on society.

 

I am 19 and am in the same age group as the kids at columbine. I don't feel that access to guns, tv, music, or video games has crap to do w/ it. I feel that the reason things like this are on the rise is because these days parents are afraid they'll go to jail for spanking their kids. This kinda gives the kid a WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT attitude. I was brought up in the country w/a slightly redneck father..........lets just say i knew when I did wrong because I could recognized the sound of a belt coming out of its loops at quite a distance haha. he never beat me....just spanked me and I think that was the best thing that ever happened. I grew up w/ 3 12 guages in the house unlocked and my dad taught me gun safety at a young age w/ a BB gun. I was screwin around one day and killed a bird w/ it and felt so bad I cried. That taught me what a gun could do even a lil one. I grew up watching tv all my life and i never wanted to kill someone because people on TV did.....and Video games......always loved them.......and YES I like some of marilyn Manson's music. It doesn't make me want to kill people or hurt my self. It makes me smile and thats all there is to it. I never did drugs...I never wanted to kill things.....I never even wanted to hurt anyone (unless they really ****ed me off but hey I've only been in one real fight) and I would never fight dirty if i was in a fight. So I feel that it's the communities fault for making people thinkg that spanking is wrong. And I'll be damned if my kid won't be familiar to the sound of a craking belt if he acts out.

 

Those two punks were not mis-understood or crying out for help. They were evil. Plain and simple. It's been said that they were picked on and bullied. I say that's no excuse. During my high school days I moved to a new school. The school had 300 kids, Kindergarden through 12th grade. The town had 600 people. For 3 years I was the new kid. I was bullied, picked on, called names in the halls of the school, one kid actually spiked my ankle in front of the baseball coach and the coach didn't say or do a thing about it. If anyone had a reason to go on a killing spree at school I did. I had access to the weapons and ammo. I had the mind set to do it. I thought about doing it many times. I became depressed and suicidal from the treatment those redneck, narrow minded, hillbillies subjected me to. The differences is I MADE THE CHOICE NOT TO DO IT!!! I'm not a hero or have some huge reserve of inner strength. But I knew right from wrong and made a choice.

 

Definitely true, most people were picked on in highschool or middle/junior high.

 

i tend to agree with that statement heck i was picked on til one day i realized i could beat the heck out of the kids who used to beat on me lol and hey i used to settle these things the old fashioned way with fists we didnt think of picking up weapons much less guns if you were bullied the only way to stop that was to stand up to the bully with your fists yeah you prolly got your butt kicked when you resisted them but the next day you proudly sported your shiner and you was left alone and the gang of bullies ( or jocks) would pick on the next kid who wouldnt stand up for himself and heck if ya stood your ground before long you actually became "cool" to the bullies

 

I think the whole Columbine thing glamorized being an outcast, wearing a trench coat, and bringing guns to school and shooting people. I was an outcast in junior high and highschool and was made fun of every now and then by certain groups such as jocks but these kids were just spoiled brats who wanted some attention. And they of course got it and will never be forgotten. I've seen some of the victims on tv who were shot and survived whole are now handicapped in some way and it's sad.

 

[QUOTE=rebocardo]I believe it has nothing to do with media coverage or firearms.

How about some children have a tendency towards evil and can not resist it? The two boys executed a girl as she was praying to God and he mocked her for believing in God before shooting her, didn't he? Sounds evil to me.
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I agree. Some people simply have a propensity for evil. However, the bible says "Spare the rod and spoil the child." It doesn't matter if you are religious or not, it makes alot of sense. These sort of atrocious acts have been on the increase since people stopped disciplining their kids. The problem is that people confuse 'attitude adjustment' with beating, so when they see someone disciplining their kid, they automatically assume the worst.

STU

 

Its BS "columbine"

If the police had done there job there would not have been 13 victims

The teacher bled to death when swatt team did not remove him, they let him DIE!

The one kid had to save him self by crawling out the window

The shooting by the ahole kids only lasted 20 min. and then they killed there last (them selfs)

PS I was there and saw the news for weeks and weeks and saw stuff that was not brocast nationaly and evertime some thing would happen they would say how far it was from columbine.

BS BS BS

You can beat down some of the people some of the time but some people fight back.
right or wrong
I am surprised it took so long for it to happen, in the late 70's I know of several students that were carrying guns to school to keep from being picked on. They just never snaped.

 

actually it could have been much worse. I can name one way they could have at least goten 15 people at once.