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I have a 351w and I’m trying to figure out what it came out of so I can order parts from a parts store easier. They have to know the year make and model. Ok the number on the block is E9AE-6015-AA-19. The number in the valley is WCP-13.
i know it’s 351w but i want to know the vehicle it came out of. Can anyone help?
The E9AE is E-80s, 9 year ending in 9 so 1989 (or later), part originally designed for/charged to the A line (Full-size Ford) E= Engine. Same casting number can be used for YEARS and across multiple model lines
6015 is the Ford 'basic' number for engine block
AA is the change level
WCP-13 is Windsor Casting Plant in Windsor, Ontario, Canada
On the back of the drivers side of the block, just below the cylinder head will be a flat spot with hand stamped numbers - the abbreviated VIN of what the engine was originally installed in. YPSSSSSS Year, Assembly Plant, Sequential number The first digit of the sequential serial number starts with 1 for Ford, 5 for Mercury
On the passenger front side of the block, outside of the timing cover will be a four digit stamping, of the actual build date of the engine YMDD Year, Month Day of month the engine was actually assembled at the engine plant - before heading to the vehicle assembly plant.
The cylinder heads will have casting numbers on them as well, just below the valve cover, between the middle two exhaust ports. E5SE, E6SE, or E7TE...
With an E9 block casting you know that it was produced later than 1988. That means that it has a 1 piece rear main seal, uses the 28oz balancing hardware like all 351W engines. It probably does not have a roller camshaft so saying that it is from a 1993 pickup is probably pretty close.
Ok I found the drivers side rear numbers, they are NNA57290. I still haven’t found the passenger side front ones. I will have to do some cleaning to find them. It does have roller lifters and aftermarket heads.
No they don't. You need a different 'Parts Person'.
What vehicle year make and model do you have?
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Ok I found the drivers side rear numbers, they are NNA57290. I still haven’t found the passenger side front ones. I will have to do some cleaning to find them. It does have roller lifters and aftermarket heads.
You could also post some pictures. Could be from a marine application or even a crate motor.
Roller could be converted or added aftermarket.
Stock Grand Marquis had 351w roller(some 1989-1991).
I need several things, one thing is a timing chain cover gasket. I see there are a bunch of different options for that gasket, some with one bolt oil pan, my time chain cover has four oil pan bolts.
You could also post some pictures. Could be from a marine application or even a crate motor.
Roller could be converted or added aftermarket.
Stock Grand Marquis had 351w roller(some 1989-1991).
No Ford roller cam 351W/5.8L blocks until 1994. F4TE. 351W was police-only in cars after 1987, and NONE were put in Grand Marquis after 87 Mercs got lo-po 5.0s with E5 or E6 heads. My '89 Crown Vic police car had a NON-roller block and E6SE heads. Serial looks more like a truck serial with only those 5-digit sequential.
That is a NON-roller E9 block, with aftermarket link-bar lifters, RHS or World heads, based on the dual exhaust bolt pattern. Those look like Comp Cams steel roller rockers. Before you go much farther, you'll need to see the bottom end to check whether the crank and rods are stock or stroker/aftermarket. You might have a stock 351, or it could be a stroker of 393, 408 or even 427 inches. Any idea of what cam is in there???
SOOOO.... with that said, this is a Frankenstein engine - NOT stock, so whatever it originally came out of goes out the window! Just make sure to use the proper timing cover and water pump for your application - standard V-or ribbed belt or reverse-rotation (serpentine belt). Flat belts can be either standard or reverse-rotation. If the water pump pulley is smooth, it is serpentine (reverse rotation), if it is ribbed, it is for a micro-V (standard rotation) flat belt. I don't know what other accessories or brackets you have...
Timing cover - it looks like you're outfitting this engine for a mechanical fuel pump/carb since you have the two-piece fuel pump eccentric on there. Trucks of that era were all EFI, so no mounting location on the timing cover for an engine driven fuel pump. 5.8L Crown Vic Police DID use Variable Venturi '2-barrel' carbs through 1991, or get a timing cover from any pre-87 351W. Then you have the water pump and backing plate to decide which way you want to go (regular or reverse-rotation). AFAIK, all timing cover-to-block gaskets are the same. It is the cover-to-waterpump that is different between standard and reverse-rotation gaskets.
The 'four hole' gasket I think you are referring to is actually part of the oil pan gasket. The two pieces of pan gasket (one on each side) and also the front rubber end seal can be found in the Fel-pro timing set gasket set. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/f...ikId3baeP48IyR
Thanks for the info. I do know the car was raced at a local drag strip. Not sure about the insides of it though. I did crank it before pulling the motor and it sounded like a hot motor. It also has a stall. It’s running v-belts like you would see on a 69 Mustang. It had an electric fuel pump but I installed the fuel eccentric so I could use a mechanical. I’m planning on putting it back in my 69 Mustang since I know it’s a running motor, it sounds good and it doesn’t smoke. My main reason for wanting to know what it came out of was so I could order parts for it. If you order something from a parts store or Jeggs or wherever they will ask year, make, model and size of engine. I don’t know how to answer those questions besides it’s a 351W. Right now all I need is intake gaskets, timing chain cover gaskets and water pump gaskets. Just don’t want to order them for a 92 F150 and they not fit.
Starting in 1968 Ford began stamping partial VIN information on a pad just under the back of the driver's side cylinder head of all factory-installed 428 Cobra Jet ALL engines to comply with Government-mandated regulations. Partial VIN stamps have also been found on cylinder heads in the area just above this pad. Service blocks didn't receive VIN stampings, so as engine swaps have taken place over time it has become very difficult to keep up with this "matching numbers" reality. Once an engine is installed it's practically impossible to see this stamping even if it does exist! Ford also stamped partial VINs on transmission cases, so take a peek at when you next have a chance.
This was done to ID certain components as to theft recovery. It will not ID the engine assembly itself.
In this case, most likely it is not the vehicle assembly engine.
To ID the engine (components - OEM) you will need to find any and all CASTING ID NOS/DATE CODES/ASSEMBLY STAMPINGS on all parts and if the engine has been extensively modified, it will need to go on the forensics table.
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This also -
Prior to 1981 the "partial VIN" on FORD engines, transmissions, etc., consisted of 8 digits. The first indicates the model year, the second is the assembly plant and the last six are the sequential "serial number" assigned at said plant. For example, 9A123456 would be a 1969 or 1979 Ford from the Atlanta assembly plant. For 1981 and newer vehicles you can go to NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) website and use their decoder. Partial VIN's are by THEIR regulation so they "are the experts" from '81 up. Earlier Ford partial VIN's can further be broken down by their 6 digit serial number. Numbers from 100001 are Ford products, 500001 are Mercury and 800001 are Lincoln. There are also serial numbers that begin with a letter... there are Ford Trucks, where the letter denotes the build month of the unit.
Right now all I need is intake gaskets, timing chain cover gaskets and water pump gaskets.
Those gaskets are the same for any 351w except perhaps the very early motors that used some unique cylinder heads, so you will be fine ordering parts for an 89 truck for example.
Just thought of this, EFI motors use a reverse rotation water pump due to the serpentine belt while earlier engines used a standard rotation pump. So you will want a water pump gasket for an earlier motor because the shape of the pump and its mating surface on the timing cover are different. This does not affect the timing cover-block gasket however they are universal.