Ford announces BIG EV NEWS
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Ford announces BIG EV NEWS
Current Lightning production is done.
Next-generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV. 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds an estimated 700+ mile range with locomotive-like towing capability.
Next-Gen F-150 Lightning EREV Delivers Electric Torque, 700+ Mile Range, and Powerful Towing
Read Press Release HERE
Next-generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV. 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds an estimated 700+ mile range with locomotive-like towing capability.
Next-Gen F-150 Lightning EREV Delivers Electric Torque, 700+ Mile Range, and Powerful Towing
Read Press Release HERE
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So not surprised.... Now I'm wondering if GM will follow or continue with their EV trucks/Hummer. RAM had the right solution but didn't have the funds to implement like I posted last year.
Bottom line Ford really needs to focus on improving quality and making vehicles affordable again.
Bottom line Ford really needs to focus on improving quality and making vehicles affordable again.
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The downside was only one dealer to service them and they were quite a distance away. awal
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I don't know how they expect to sell them even if a 7500 rebate is in place. How much was the federal government expected to subsidize these things via tax rebates, DOE/DOT grants and programs, etc to make them worth while for fleet users?
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Here's Farley's report... Like I've been saying. Small vehicle EV's is the future, like commute vehicles not vehicles used for towing.
Also one has to be concerned about the value of the Lightning since it's now obsolete.
Also one has to be concerned about the value of the Lightning since it's now obsolete.
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While local towing is fine with a EV, towing heavy longer distances can be problematic due to reduced range and need to use public charging rather than charging at home.
As far as future value of used Lightnings goes, I believe it will suffer because of questionable ongoing support. Ford though has committed to support it for at least 10 years.
I’m glad I leased mine with an almost a 30% discount off MSRP and 0% interest. If the future value tanks I can’t see me buying it at lease end, as I initially planned.
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I can see this going either way. Perhaps the value goes down because people assume Ford will abandon the trucks. Perhaps values go up because now people who really want one can’t get a new one. We’ll just have to wait and see.
As far as leases go, my residual value is set at $36,500 or thereabouts in 42 months from now. Recent history on these trucks prior to yesterday’s announcement was already making that look like an optimistic figure. So let’s pretend that 42 months from now the actual market value of the truck is $25,000. Why on Earth would I buy this truck at end of lease for $36,500 if it’s worth $25k?? So my guess is if values DO tank on these trucks worse than it already was to begin with, nobody is going to be buying them at end of lease. The market would get flooded with used Lightning trucks. This would present an interesting phenomenon.
As far as leases go, my residual value is set at $36,500 or thereabouts in 42 months from now. Recent history on these trucks prior to yesterday’s announcement was already making that look like an optimistic figure. So let’s pretend that 42 months from now the actual market value of the truck is $25,000. Why on Earth would I buy this truck at end of lease for $36,500 if it’s worth $25k?? So my guess is if values DO tank on these trucks worse than it already was to begin with, nobody is going to be buying them at end of lease. The market would get flooded with used Lightning trucks. This would present an interesting phenomenon.
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gm has tons of ev hummers, pickups etc. Grazing on lots
What cracked me this week
Was the new suv ev that looks like a dead ringer for the aviator
Priced to sell 93k
Omg
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Interesting news, but hardly surprising given the market as a whole. Whether we like it or not, the Lightning was a flop compared to the number they were expecting to sell. Costs went up with tariffs and removal of subsidies, so this was probably the least-bad option. I really enjoyed my Lightning, but owner impressions aren’t gonna make bad numbers pencil out.
I love the idea of a Lightning EREV in theory, but can’t see it being a great option for long-term ownership. Plug-ins and EREVs are the most complicated things on wheels, and I can see an out-of-warranty nightmare unless their quality standards improve dramatically. I’ll withhold judgment until they hit the market, maybe they’ll prove me wrong?
I love the idea of a Lightning EREV in theory, but can’t see it being a great option for long-term ownership. Plug-ins and EREVs are the most complicated things on wheels, and I can see an out-of-warranty nightmare unless their quality standards improve dramatically. I’ll withhold judgment until they hit the market, maybe they’ll prove me wrong?
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You can hardly get parts for an in-warranty vehicle now. I wouldn't expect any support for an out of warranty discontinued vehicle.
The new corporate norm. Make them where you have to go to the dealer for service, then program them so no one else can repair the electrical after warranty, and don't make key replacement parts for out of warranty vehicles.
This seems to be the same with all car manufacturers. If you can't repair your old, you have to buy new.....
First Brands going bankrupt could have some interesting outcomes for aftermarket parts.
The new corporate norm. Make them where you have to go to the dealer for service, then program them so no one else can repair the electrical after warranty, and don't make key replacement parts for out of warranty vehicles.
This seems to be the same with all car manufacturers. If you can't repair your old, you have to buy new.....
First Brands going bankrupt could have some interesting outcomes for aftermarket parts.
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Current Lightning production is done.
Next-generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV. 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds an estimated 700+ mile range with locomotive-like towing capability.
Next-Gen F-150 Lightning EREV Delivers Electric Torque, 700+ Mile Range, and Powerful Towing
Read Press Release HERE
Next-generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV. 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds an estimated 700+ mile range with locomotive-like towing capability.
Next-Gen F-150 Lightning EREV Delivers Electric Torque, 700+ Mile Range, and Powerful Towing
Read Press Release HERE
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Back to the GM delivery vehicle for a moment--Great. Create an orphan and who's going to support it?
I'm pretty sure captive fleet delivery & service vehicles are an ideal market for electrics. Especially in dense urban areas.
All or nothing I guess. So now we're back to nothing?
I'm pretty sure captive fleet delivery & service vehicles are an ideal market for electrics. Especially in dense urban areas.
All or nothing I guess. So now we're back to nothing?
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Fleet and delivery businesses are competitive, every dollar counts. Electrics will be enthusiastically adopted when their price meets the cost/benefit curve.
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As long as the range and the charging infrastructure are there, there's no down side to an electric courier fleet. You gotta wonder what this will all mean for the e transit vans. Different platform yes but still a vehicle built for utility work. The e transits that the USPS have purchased only have a 200 mile range in cold weather. They will have to be plugged in daily. The NGDV's that are replacing the USPS LLV's are coming in electric and petro. The gasser will use a Ford 2.0L eco and eight speed trans employing rear wheel and AWD versions. it'll be interesting to see how this E fleet specs out. I'll wager that it'll be good but it won't be delivered in the numbers that were prescribed by the previous administration.