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Just curious if anyone can speak to what is included or not included in the 7.3L long block, specifically part LC3Z-6006-A. Anyone happen to have a picture? Curious if it comes with a water pump, any manifolds, valve covers, etc? What should one count on replacing?
Also, looks like I can order the long block for $~4800 from a local dealer. MSRP is $5332. Any tricks to getting a better deal?
Anyone ever dealt with returning the core for a long block purchased from Ford? If I order one, I'd like to pull apart my current motor and see what's damaged before giving it back. Assuming I put it back together more or less to the state the new motor came in, is anyone going to give a hoot what it looks like?
Quick update for anyone interested in what the Ford 7.3 long block comes with. This is for part number LC3Z6006A. I managed to get a local dealer to sell it to me for $4500 + $1800 for the core (refundable) and a $80 shipping charge for shipping to the dealer. Most dealers I called just spit out the $5332 msrp. Cheapest I saw online was ~$4300 so $4500 for a local pickup as someone without a commercial account seemed fair to me. Took three days for the dealer to receive the engine from their supplier. I went and picked it up and they loaded it into the truck with a forklift.
The pictures below show what comes in the box. It came with a new water pump, thermostat, injectors, various sensors (knock, temp, cam position, etc), and exhaust studs. You'll probably want to order at least the intake and exhaust manifold gaskets, and the oil dipstick tube o-ring. You will need to swap the oil filler cap and the dipstick and dipstick tube. You'll need to swap the crank sensor, flywheel, and most pulleys. It did come with oil and a filter. I did need to swap my block heater over from my old engine. Technically, you're supposed to replace a number of torque to yield bolts. I reused all of mine but might do at least the flywheel bolts and exhaust nuts if I were to do it again. Some of the studs on my old engine came out with the nuts when taking off my exhaust manifolds, so I had to put the old studs in a vice to get the exhaust nuts off.
Long block is going to get you the complete cylinder heads over the short block which doesn't include cylinder heads. Everything else external of the engine rotating assembly/valvetrain you'll have to bring over from your existing engine.
My last dealing with Ford engine cores was back in 2019/2020 when I had to replace two 6.7L engines. I tore them down a bit and just slapped everything back together loosely to get the core refund. The Ford parts guys I dealt with all said they really just want the block/crankshaft and cylinder heads. Told me they don't reuse the valvetrain, camshaft, pistons/rods, or oil pump and pan.
Everything else external of the engine rotating assembly/valvetrain you'll have to bring over from your existing engine.
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We had the V6 replaced on our '97 F-150... everything was carried over. Actually... looking at the picture... it came with the water pump. It was an AER rebuild... which may be an option for you to save money, assuming AER has the 7.3L available.
Quick update for anyone interested in what the Ford 7.3 long block comes with. This is for part number LC3Z6006A. I managed to get a local dealer to sell it to me for $4500 + $1800 for the core (refundable) and a $80 shipping charge for shipping to the dealer. Most dealers I called just spit out the $5332 msrp. Cheapest I saw online was ~$4300 so $4500 for a local pickup as someone without a commercial account seemed fair to me. Took three days for the dealer to receive the engine from their supplier. I went and picked it up and they loaded it into the truck with a forklift.
The pictures below show what comes in the box. It came with a new water pump, thermostat, injectors, various sensors (knock, temp, cam position, etc), and exhaust studs. You'll probably want to order at least the intake and exhaust manifold gaskets, and the oil dipstick tube o-ring. You will need to swap the oil filler cap and the dipstick and dipstick tube. You'll need to swap the crank sensor, flywheel, and most pulleys. It did come with oil and a filter. I did need to swap my block heater over from my old engine. Technically, you're supposed to replace a number of torque to yield bolts. I reused all of mine but might do at least the flywheel bolts and exhaust nuts if I were to do it again. Some of the studs on my old engine came out with the nuts when taking off my exhaust manifolds, so I had to put the old studs in a vice to get the exhaust nuts off.
Quick update for anyone interested in what the Ford 7.3 long block comes with. This is for part number LC3Z6006A. I managed to get a local dealer to sell it to me for $4500 + $1800 for the core (refundable) and a $80 shipping charge for shipping to the dealer. Most dealers I called just spit out the $5332 msrp. Cheapest I saw online was ~$4300 so $4500 for a local pickup as someone without a commercial account seemed fair to me. Took three days for the dealer to receive the engine from their supplier. I went and picked it up and they loaded it into the truck with a forklift.
The pictures below show what comes in the box. It came with a new water pump, thermostat, injectors, various sensors (knock, temp, cam position, etc), and exhaust studs. You'll probably want to order at least the intake and exhaust manifold gaskets, and the oil dipstick tube o-ring. You will need to swap the oil filler cap and the dipstick and dipstick tube. You'll need to swap the crank sensor, flywheel, and most pulleys. It did come with oil and a filter. I did need to swap my block heater over from my old engine. Technically, you're supposed to replace a number of torque to yield bolts. I reused all of mine but might do at least the flywheel bolts and exhaust nuts if I were to do it again. Some of the studs on my old engine came out with the nuts when taking off my exhaust manifolds, so I had to put the old studs in a vice to get the exhaust nuts off.
If I was out of warranty and buying a new long block from Ford to install myself, I would change the lifters to Johnson or LS7 lifters. I would get a hold of Brian Wolfe and see what he says.
Hi Steve,
How is the core return handled? That was my primary hesitation with ordering online.
Core return can be a problem. Shipping cost to send it back is on you. Technically, your local dealer could take the core and pay you for it because Ford will pay them for the core. Sadly most won't do it if they didn't sell you the engine in the first place.
Just one more quick comment for anyone considering buying a long block, or really any parts that you'll pickup at a dealer. If you're not getting a better price from you local dealer's parts counter guys, considering ordering from parts.ford.com for pickup at the dealer, if that's an option. I found out the hard way that parts ordered directly through the parts counter don't earn you FordPass points. I still got enough of a discount through the parts counter guy that it was worth giving up the points, but that may not be the case for everyone. Just something to consider.
Just one more quick comment for anyone considering buying a long block, or really any parts that you'll pickup at a dealer. If you're not getting a better price from you local dealer's parts counter guys, considering ordering from parts.ford.com for pickup at the dealer, if that's an option. I found out the hard way that parts ordered directly through the parts counter don't earn you FordPass points. I still got enough of a discount through the parts counter guy that it was worth giving up the points, but that may not be the case for everyone. Just something to consider.
When ordering online for dealer pickup the dealership is just the middle man at that point and is not monetarily involved in the transaction. I ordered some parts to pickup at Mtn. View Ford in Chattanooga and their customer service was worth the money they made on the transaction. They made sure to let me know they werent making any money when I order for dealer pickup multiple times while I waited for them to find the parts. I had a 20% off code that was only good for ordering online so it would have cost me money to make them money. SOL for them.
Quick update for anyone interested in what the Ford 7.3 long block comes with. This is for part number LC3Z6006A. I managed to get a local dealer to sell it to me for $4500 + $1800 for the core (refundable) and a $80 shipping charge for shipping to the dealer. Most dealers I called just spit out the $5332 msrp. Cheapest I saw online was ~$4300 so $4500 for a local pickup as someone without a commercial account seemed fair to me. Took three days for the dealer to receive the engine from their supplier. I went and picked it up and they loaded it into the truck with a forklift.
The pictures below show what comes in the box. It came with a new water pump, thermostat, injectors, various sensors (knock, temp, cam position, etc), and exhaust studs. You'll probably want to order at least the intake and exhaust manifold gaskets, and the oil dipstick tube o-ring. You will need to swap the oil filler cap and the dipstick and dipstick tube. You'll need to swap the crank sensor, flywheel, and most pulleys. It did come with oil and a filter. I did need to swap my block heater over from my old engine. Technically, you're supposed to replace a number of torque to yield bolts. I reused all of mine but might do at least the flywheel bolts and exhaust nuts if I were to do it again. Some of the studs on my old engine came out with the nuts when taking off my exhaust manifolds, so I had to put the old studs in a vice to get the exhaust nuts off.
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