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Old Jan 10, 2025 | 07:23 PM
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Can Fuel Be the Main Contributorr to the Gas Engine Problems


Came across this video about the difference between regular and premium fuel.

The main thing to see begins at the 11:30 mark unless you are interested in the science.

Bottom line is the premium fuel has additional wear inhibitors and it looks to make a significant difference. More iron was built up in the oil created more wear with the regular fuel.

Maybe that is why it is recommended to use premium when towing. With the problems with these and other engines, like the Hemi, I am interested if they ran regular or premium.

What do you all think? Could these high performance engines been damaged from low grade fuel?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2025 | 07:34 AM
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I doubt it. There would be wiide spread information and warnings about that. These videos you have to take with a grain of salt. I saw one were the guy was adamant about warming up the truck before use in freezing temps is a waste. Actually he said warming any gas engine in freezing temps was a waste. No way will I start my truck and drive away in 1 deg temps. Transmission is linked to all of this as well.
I always remote start for a few mintues. Get the oil up onto the bearing etc before laying into the parts looking for power to get away down the road.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2025 | 09:35 AM
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I had no idea that premium fuel enhanced the oil 😳
 
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Old Jan 11, 2025 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by capt caper
I doubt it. There would be wiide spread information and warnings about that. These videos you have to take with a grain of salt. I saw one were the guy was adamant about warming up the truck before use in freezing temps is a waste. Actually he said warming any gas engine in freezing temps was a waste. No way will I start my truck and drive away in 1 deg temps. Transmission is linked to all of this as well.
I always remote start for a few mintues. Get the oil up onto the bearing etc before laying into the parts looking for power to get away down the road.
by the time the oil has flowed to the top of the engine and any has drained back into the pan every part that gets oil has oil. Warming up the oil in cold weather is a waste if you are just hopping onto the highway. If you start it up and floor it right off the bat that might be the only no no. My OBS lived half it's life in Alaska and I daily drove it in winter. One year had almost 100 days below zero. There is a reason they recommend lower viscosity oil in arctic temps. It flows faster on cold starts. Once everything is coated it is lubricating. Common sense.

I have gotten gas before that I got noticeably worse fuel economy from and then the next tank from a different station it was back to normal. I qould bet there is something to that argument. Not all fuels are equal.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2025 | 12:43 PM
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by the time the wild has flowed to the top of the engine and any has drained back into the pan every part that gets oil has oil. Warming up the oil in cold weather is a waste if you are just hopping onto the highway. If you start it up and floor it right off the bat that might be the only no no. My OBS lived half it's life in Alaska and I daily drove it in winter. One year had almost 100 days below zero. There is a reason they recommend lower viscosity oil in arctic temps. It flows faster on cold starts. Once everything is coated it is lubricating. Common sense.

I have gotten gas before that I got noticeably worse fuel economy from and then the next tank from a dofferent station it was back to normal. I qould bet there is something to that argument. Not all fuels are equal.
exactly right
also engine warms quicker under load so you might as well start and go.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2025 | 01:02 PM
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exactly right
also engine warms quicker under load so you might as well start and go.
In the motorpool in Alaska we didn't have plugs for block heaters and we would start them every Monday morning. I remember one January it never got warmer than -10 for 2 weeks and we would start the trucks and immediately put them on high idle as soon as the oil pressure gauge registered. It could take over an hour before the needle would register any movement on the temp gauge. If you had to wait for it to warm up before driving you would be waiting a LONG time.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2025 | 06:31 PM
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As long as the heated seat is working all is good. The truck will catchup.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2025 | 10:27 AM
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From the Ford owners manual for 7.3 Gas




 
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What gas engine problems are we speaking of?

Speaking for a fleet of work trucks here that run on 87 octane and no issues because of octane rating or lack of detergents and additives. Really no problems in general with my gas trucks.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2025 | 07:08 PM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...own-motor.html

This is the most recent one.

Good to hear you post that the fleet is holding up well with the engine.

On the other end Scraprat is approaching 200,000 miles with his engine.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 07:22 PM
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I watched a video made by a Ford powertrain engineer that said, down to -20F, a Ford gas engine is ready to go after 20 seconds.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Recon
I didnt see that thread. Same way my first 7.3L went down, low compression on cylinders 7 and 8.
 
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