2023 F250 coolant in oil test result
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2023 F250 coolant in oil test result
Greetings!
I own a 2023 F250 7.3L OHV V-8 (gas) 13,430 Mi First oil change at 6,221 Mi.
I had the second oil test results from Blackstone Labs come back.
potassium reads 296 last reading was 3.
sodium reads 377 last reading 10.
lead reads 50 last reading was 0.
copper: 657 last reading 28.
tin: 4 last reading 1.
zinc: 1149 last reading 732
SUS viscosity @ 210F 69.9 normal = 55-63
positive for antifreeze
First, has anyone else had this issue?
Second, what is the likely failure point?
My wife uses the truck as a daily driver, about 30 miles a day.
We have done light hauling and local towing for a home project.
The dealer I purchased new from will not accept the lab results for warranty.
Thank you!!!!!
L
I own a 2023 F250 7.3L OHV V-8 (gas) 13,430 Mi First oil change at 6,221 Mi.
I had the second oil test results from Blackstone Labs come back.
potassium reads 296 last reading was 3.
sodium reads 377 last reading 10.
lead reads 50 last reading was 0.
copper: 657 last reading 28.
tin: 4 last reading 1.
zinc: 1149 last reading 732
SUS viscosity @ 210F 69.9 normal = 55-63
positive for antifreeze
First, has anyone else had this issue?
Second, what is the likely failure point?
My wife uses the truck as a daily driver, about 30 miles a day.
We have done light hauling and local towing for a home project.
The dealer I purchased new from will not accept the lab results for warranty.
Thank you!!!!!
L
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Check the radiator top tank bottle, is it at the same fluid level every morning, is the color normal? Run a cooling system pressure test and affirm that it holds pressure without bleeding down. Is the level on the engine oil level gauge consistent, or does the level rise? Is there coolant in the oil? Are all spark plugs the same color, or does one or more show coolant deposits. As your report reads, you have coolant in the oil, where is it coming from? Head gasket, cracked head, oil cooler? I would suspect the oil cooler.
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Like he said ^^^^
It's really a shame that Ford built this engine to be "reliable and dependable", and designed it in the most simple way you can possibly sell a V8 engine these days, and yet it's been riddled with problems for 3 years now. That's just sad.
It's really a shame that Ford built this engine to be "reliable and dependable", and designed it in the most simple way you can possibly sell a V8 engine these days, and yet it's been riddled with problems for 3 years now. That's just sad.
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This is exactly why you go to the trouble of doing an oil analysis. A problem has been uncovered. It will become a huge issue if it isn't found and fixed. The next stop should be a service desk at a trusted dealership.
Cargo Master
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UOA definitely paid for itself, FYI I would pull your UOA pdf down and redact it a bit. On topic you for sure have a coolant leak somewhere. I am not familiar enough with the 7.3 coolant system but looks like a hex failed. Good luck and keep us posted if you can.
Not that I follow it too closely but I am not sure I would say the 7.3 has been riddled with problems. There were some lifter issues with some RV platform engines that has been reduced to click-bait but other than that I hear more complaints about the 10R140 than the 7.3 gas engine.
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First I've read of coolant in the oil.....I guess that could be someone's definition of "riddled."
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Just going off the fact that every week I see a new 7.3 problem thread pop up. That shouldn't be happening.
First two pages of the 7.3 section: engine failure, overheating, oil leak, cam & lifters, trans cooler failure, etc.
First two pages of the 7.3 section: engine failure, overheating, oil leak, cam & lifters, trans cooler failure, etc.
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Almost as bad as seeing failed CP4 pumps, leaking engine gaskets on diesels... every week... The first two pages of the 7.3 page go back 3 years, it isn't an active page by any stretch. Thos cumulative failures add up to almost nothing compared to the 6.7 failures I read about daily here. The vast majority of both engines do not really have problems. The rest likely chalked up to normal manufacturing issues not a systemic problem, well except the CP4, that should not be happening...
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Almost as bad as seeing failed CP4 pumps, leaking engine gaskets on diesels... every week... The first two pages of the 7.3 page go back 3 years, it isn't an active page by any stretch. Thos cumulative failures add up to almost nothing compared to the 6.7 failures I read about daily here. The vast majority of both engines do not really have problems. The rest likely chalked up to normal manufacturing issues not a systemic problem, well except the CP4, that should not be happening...
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Almost as bad as seeing failed CP4 pumps, leaking engine gaskets on diesels... every week... The first two pages of the 7.3 page go back 3 years, it isn't an active page by any stretch. Thos cumulative failures add up to almost nothing compared to the 6.7 failures I read about daily here. The vast majority of both engines do not really have problems. The rest likely chalked up to normal manufacturing issues not a systemic problem, well except the CP4, that should not be happening...
I think the point is valid, the 7.3 has a list of too-common (different than just plain common) issues that really shouldn't be happening in the 2020's. You won't find threads about lifter delamination in the Windsor forums, an engine design some 60+ years older. Problems around new technologies that the industry probably would not have even moved towards if it weren't for regulations is kind of understandable though I'll never argue they're acceptable. Some of the problems the 7.3 have shown are not understandable. In all cases Ford should have done better.
Laughing Gas
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Right now, I'd be dropping that oil into a clean pan and looking for antifreeze in the oil visually. It's one of the reasons I do my own oil changes. I lost the 4.2L on my wife's F-150 because antifreeze was leaking into one of the cylinders.
Laughing Gas
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I’m not surprised the dealer is not accepting the lab results. Can you imagine the possibility of fraud if they would.
Also how much time it would take to teach all the customers how to read.
Now having said that what I would do for the customer at my business would be to work out a deal with them that I would do an oil change and drive it 150 miles or so and pull a sample and send it in. If it comes back positive start a claim with ford. If negative customer pays t/m.
Also how much time it would take to teach all the customers how to read.
Now having said that what I would do for the customer at my business would be to work out a deal with them that I would do an oil change and drive it 150 miles or so and pull a sample and send it in. If it comes back positive start a claim with ford. If negative customer pays t/m.