Hey guys, my dad wants to buy Ford pick up. Sadly I see that F150 discontinued Diesels, so we will have to go for F250. He wants work truck that is diesel.

I wanted to ask basics of what should I know before buying one? Anything extra cost I dont need to pay for? or any specific package ? We will be getting new one but still. I have taco myself but Ford is different world so I would appreciate any advice for new buyer like me.

Thanks.

 

suggues that he consider how he is to use the truck. a diesel likes to work. Not drive around in the city from stop light to stop light.

Download the coffee book on the 6.7 and read up on the emissions systems.

 

Yeah lots of different “work”. So many different package variables. I did about 30k miles daily driving a 350 dually 6.7 because it was just about the only thing available for market price a couple years ago.

A 250 works better though because I don’t need more than 3,000 bed capacity and 15k towing. I recently got one and damn the ride is so much better!


Everyone says diesel’s don’t like around town but I have ran 3 6.7s almost exclusively around town, short trips and stop and go. 6.7/6speed, 6.7/10speed, and 6.7/6 speed lightened up with no muffler misc and 100hp tune.


I have also had some F150s in different trims and configurations and a Tundra.


These were all used for different work duties. GIVE US SOME DETAILS

 

So to me I see you guys are choosing between two trucks that are very far apart in capabilities. The F150 and Super Duty chassis are pretty different and usually not cross shopped.

What’s he hauling or towing?

 

You gave us very little to work with. If he must have a diesel then an F250 is his only choice. What payload and towing capabilities does he need? Does he need an extended or crew cab? A base model XL with a diesel is around $60K. How far does he travel? An F150 Lightning is a good choice for many contractors that work local and don't have to tow far and it has a payload of 2200lbs. Give us some more info.

 

I ended up cross shopping. Didn't really 'want' a F250 as a daily driver, but I ended up with one. 100% because of my desire to tow a modest (26'-28') travel trailer in a couple of years; I didn't want to worry about payload and tongue weight. I figured I'd get the truck paid off, and then when I went for my travel trailer my overall expenses for the hobby would be very cheap.

Plus, per my dealer's service manager, the 7.3 is supposed to be decidedly more reliable then the 3.5EB on the F150s. I'm at the stage in my life where I can pay for whatever MPGs I'm getting, so while I would love to see my truck up at 18-20 mpg I can live with it falling short.

 

The difference in purchase price between the 7.3L and the Power Stroke will pay for a lot of fuel.

I love towing with my Power Stroke, but Godzilla is a good choice also.

 

I thought I remembered seeing the Lightning has like 90 miles towing range with any decent trailer behind it.

can’t remember the exact number to be honest but it was pathetic

I wouldn’t recommend one to my worst enemy

 

I have seen the 90 mile range with a trailer also and as I stated if you don't tow far it is a good choice. It has very low maintenance costs, and it costs $20-$40 to charge v.s. $75 -$100 to fill the tank. If I didn't have a travel trailer to tow on long trips I would have bought one instead of my F250 diesel.

 

they’re terrible man

and how does anyone know if their day might change and they might need to go further?

maybe you need to make a few runs to the supply house throughout the day. Then kids have baseball practice after work.

To put it as nice as I can, that range is just flat out stupid. I (and many many others) could never live with the stress of knowing I can’t drive more than 90 miles in a given day without planning for a charge lol.

what about any emergency situations that might require any unexpected driving?

having exponentially higher range and quicker fuel ups is a must in my opinion even if you live right next to where you work. Maybe one day the range will improve but there is a lot of advancement before that happens.

 

I consider an F-150 more like a car than a truck. I have a 150 now and will be upgrading to a 350. The 150 is great for towing my 8000 TT, but I only do a few trips a year and it serves as a daily driver. At best I get just over 8 MPH towing. With retirement coming up, I plan to do a lot more towing and think it would be too much for a 1/2 ton. I would say an F-150 would be ok if you carry small payloads (less than 1500 lbs.) and didn't do much towing.

 

That 75-100 tank of gas will get you a lot further than 90 miles even while towing.

 

Until our nationwide infrastructure is updated to accommodate EVs, we are putting the cart in front of the horse. Our nationwide power grid can't support every household having one (much less two), the range is not adequate for anyone who drives long distance consistently, there aren't enough charging stations (and they need to come to a standard plug instead of every EV needing a trunk full of adapters), and a LOT of other issues. There are several different ways to solve these problems, but NONE of them are cheap and most don't have much for return on investment.

I still say they're missing out by not putting solar panels on the roof of them all, too - a little bit of charge while it's sitting in a parking lot is better than none. Oh wait, no one can make money off that.

That said, a LOT of people could do one for a daily driver, because they don't generally tow much if anything at all and they don't typically drive more than 30-60 miles a day - which falls well into the average of 150-250 miles per charge for most EVs. Note I said a LOT of people, not everyone. There are people who drive more in a day than the range can meet, there are people who tow daily, etc. etc.

For instance, my wife probably could do one - she drives about 25 miles/day back and forth to work, and we really don't go anywhere during the week that isn't mostly on our way home from work. If we DID need to, we would just have to grab a different vehicle from home, even if it was an 'emergency.' However, where we live can't support the fast charger (not enough service amps), and the 'standard' charger apparently won't charge past 80% or something like that.

There are issues with EVs, no argument. Hybrids would be a better solution for most people (look up Edison Motors and what they're doing with logging industry rigs), fuel cells would be even better but every major project I've seen on them has been cancelled once they started to show promise. But EVs as they sit now aren't a good solution for everyone.

 

A 3.5 Ecoboost F-150 has more HP and TQ than a Diesel based F-150. If you don't need the payload or tow a house, then an F-150 is more than enough truck. Diesel maintenance buys a LOT of gas.

 

Does our cityfied society even understand the adage??? I have serious doubts! LOL
And you are correct, our infrastructure is in no way ready for EV’s. Hell, it can’t handle the load now. When it is 100*F is everybody gonna shut their home AC off to charge their car? Or same at the workplace?