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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 04:52 PM
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Ford and GM to void warranty if over payload

Was just watching a video claiming Ford and GM are going to void the warranty if you go over on payload. The new trucks have scales built into them, so they know.

I did a search for any news on this but couldn't find it, but I believe it.

This will make those numbers on the inside of the driver's door more important for many.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Was just watching a video claiming Ford and GM are going to void the warranty if you go over on payload. The new trucks have scales built into them, so they know.

I did a search for any news on this but couldn't find it, but I believe it.

This will make those numbers on the inside of the driver's door more important for many.
Haha! Reason #.... well, I forgot how many... but yet another reason why I'm glad I have my 22 and don't have to worry about getting a 23!
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 04:59 PM
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In light of this recent rear axle recall I suspect this is correct.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 04:59 PM
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I suppose they could but that sounds like speculation.

That said, show me one business owner who thinks it's reasonable that they should warranty abused equipment. It wouldn't put me off if they did do this. Stick to the designed capacity. Rent bigger if needed occasionally, buy bigger if needed regularly.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by seijirou
I suppose they could but that sounds like speculation.

That said, show me one business owner who thinks it's reasonable that they should warranty abused equipment. It wouldn't put me off if they did do this. Stick to the designed capacity. Rent bigger if needed occasionally, buy bigger if needed regularly.
It's not speculation when the truck is watching and recording your every move. Big brother is watching.

I mean maybe you could get away with it you can prove the built in scales aren't calibrated properly? Good luck with that.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
It's not speculation when the truck is watching and recording your every move. Big brother is watching.

I mean maybe you could get away with it you can prove the built in scales aren't calibrated properly? Good luck with that.
You know it's recording, or are you speculating?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:08 PM
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I know Ford is doing that built in scale thing but I didn’t see that as being a thing for the GM trucks.

I don’t see myself going over 3,520 ever so
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:11 PM
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I would void the warranty too.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:12 PM
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Well, maybe. But current laws require the manufacturer has to prove your misuse caused the problem. For example, a crushed axle tube would have a strong argument, but a leaking rear main seal would not. So, exceeding payload in and of itself could not likely 'void your warranty' legally.

Also, I'm not sure how hard it will be to defeat the scale; pull the fuse, disconnect a lead, etc.

The manufacturer's motivation to do so would be significant if their info tells them exceeding payload is costing them. If it doesn't, the Marketing Department would certainly campaign against it, as it could definitely impact sales.

I guess we will see...
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by seijirou
You know it's recording, or are you speculating?
Ford can't speculate, if they are indeed going this route.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:25 PM
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This is the video. He said they'll void the warranty if the truck goes over the MGVWR, which would likely put it over payload as well, so my mistake on the title of this thread. It's MGVWR, not payload.

 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:31 PM
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This is one of the things I was afraid of.... which led me to get a DRW, so I don't have to essentially ever worry about exceeding max payload.

The only thing that I'm thinking is not all the 23's will have the onboard scale? From what I heard, that is an option on Job 2 and Higher Trims? Pretty sure my ordered Lariat won't have onboard scales. I wouldn't be surprised if starting in 2024, it's a standard feature on all Super Duty's.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:32 PM
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Well lets see the video does not provide a link to the announcements. Looks like a guy try to drive up his youtube hit counts. I calling BS. Got to learn there MORE BS on the internet then real
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
This is the video. He said they'll void the warranty if the truck goes over the MGVWR, which would likely put it over payload as well, so my mistake on the title of this thread. It's MGVWR, not payload.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc313TkfzEY
Max Gross Vehicle Weight Rating and Available Payload is essentially the same thing. Max Payload IS Max Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dsmoto32
Max Gross Vehicle Weight Rating and Available Payload is essentially the same thing. Max Payload IS Max Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
True enough!
 
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