Oil and Oil Filter Options
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Oil and Oil Filter Options
Hello all:
So. I just got my oil changed on my 2021 F250 w/ 6.7 Power stroke. Used conventional oil and was told 5000 miles which is normal in my experience (former 2006 f250 with 6.0)
After spending a little over $100 to have it done I started thinking wether there was a better oil that I could get more miles out of. Started looking and found Royal Purple and Amsoil full synthetic oils. Watched some random youtube video where a guy did at home testing (wear, evaporation and cold flow tests) that showed Amsoil to be pretty good. Amsoil also said 25,000 miles (which I am skeptical of and for the record I would never go past 10,000 miles anyway)
I am just looking to be a little more economical here. I don't mind spending a little more if its going to get me double the miles between changes but I also don't want to get my warranty revoked doing it.
Anyone out here have recommendations/thoughts on this matter.
Also thoughts on filter as well.
Thanks in advance
TBRA
So. I just got my oil changed on my 2021 F250 w/ 6.7 Power stroke. Used conventional oil and was told 5000 miles which is normal in my experience (former 2006 f250 with 6.0)
After spending a little over $100 to have it done I started thinking wether there was a better oil that I could get more miles out of. Started looking and found Royal Purple and Amsoil full synthetic oils. Watched some random youtube video where a guy did at home testing (wear, evaporation and cold flow tests) that showed Amsoil to be pretty good. Amsoil also said 25,000 miles (which I am skeptical of and for the record I would never go past 10,000 miles anyway)
I am just looking to be a little more economical here. I don't mind spending a little more if its going to get me double the miles between changes but I also don't want to get my warranty revoked doing it.
Anyone out here have recommendations/thoughts on this matter.
Also thoughts on filter as well.
Thanks in advance
TBRA
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First, where did you get the 5,000 mile change interval? Have you read your owner's manual regarding vehicle service? If you have, you should be aware the manual makes no distinction between conventional and synthetic oil regarding service intervals. None. It is also your guide as to what the factory recommends. That way, you aren't influenced by some guys on the Internet who you know nothing about.
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Just price amsoil and you will see it's ridiculously expensive. Next no one should tell you to go 25,000 miles on a oil change in any car.I only use Motorcraft full synthetic oil. I have been using full synthetic for about 30 years and I dont trust conventional oil. I absolutely refuse to use a blend. It's not 50/50 and they don't say the amount of the blend. You are stuck with Motorcraft filters. don't even try aftermarket filters. Some guys use Rotella but I personally don't want to think about oil. Motorcraft oil came standard to thats what I use. I don't even keep track of millage. Truck will tell you when to change the oil. I never exceed that interval. Your truck is still under warranty and If it was me I would just use Motorcraft and that way they can't blame oil for a engine failure. There is a approved list of oil but I am not much of a gambler. Enjoy the truck. my 15 is fine outside of the emissions crap. That is where the learning curve is.
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Motorcraft filters and I switch to a full synthetic especially in the winter months.
Pick a brand of oil you like, Make sure it's on the Ford approved list of oils. ( List from 2018, May be a newer list out https://parts.ford.com/content/dam/f...SSM2c171F1.pdf )
I've been using Valvoline Extreme Blue oil.
I did oil test at 5,000 miles, then 6,000 miles then 7500 miles and finally I just gave up and change when the Oil Life monitor tells me to change oil, which is usually around 9,000 miles the way I drive.
Pick a brand of oil you like, Make sure it's on the Ford approved list of oils. ( List from 2018, May be a newer list out https://parts.ford.com/content/dam/f...SSM2c171F1.pdf )
I've been using Valvoline Extreme Blue oil.
I did oil test at 5,000 miles, then 6,000 miles then 7500 miles and finally I just gave up and change when the Oil Life monitor tells me to change oil, which is usually around 9,000 miles the way I drive.
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Motorcraft filter only for my truck and Rotella T6 for the past 70,000 miles. Motorcraft 15w-40 for the first 50,000.
Ford advises to follow the IOLM. For my 2011 truck, I think the IOLM logic is about right but I admit it took about a dozen oil changes for me to trust it. The one exception, in my opinion, is the first oil change. I prefer to get that oil out by 4,000 miles.
The last oil change on my 6.7L was 8,203 over 25 months with a good oil report, I think the IOLM alerted as change required at 7,500 this time.
I am not running my engines over 10,000 miles between changes, too much fuel dilution with emissions turbo diesels (unrelated here; or even GTDI). I can't even run my 2.7L EcoBoost more than 6,000 miles before the oil reeks of gasoline.
Here's the URL that downloads the latest published approved oil PDF:
https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubrican...SSM2C171F1.pdf
Ford advises to follow the IOLM. For my 2011 truck, I think the IOLM logic is about right but I admit it took about a dozen oil changes for me to trust it. The one exception, in my opinion, is the first oil change. I prefer to get that oil out by 4,000 miles.
The last oil change on my 6.7L was 8,203 over 25 months with a good oil report, I think the IOLM alerted as change required at 7,500 this time.
I am not running my engines over 10,000 miles between changes, too much fuel dilution with emissions turbo diesels (unrelated here; or even GTDI). I can't even run my 2.7L EcoBoost more than 6,000 miles before the oil reeks of gasoline.
Here's the URL that downloads the latest published approved oil PDF:
https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubrican...SSM2C171F1.pdf
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Oil threads on forums, whether it be cars/trucks/powersports/OPE/boats etc. always bring out very strong opinions based on personal anecdotal experience. In other words, whatever the member is doing seems to be the answer as to why there is never an issue for said user. The thing of it is, there never seems to be an oil/filter choice related issue no matter what that choice is. So, bottom line for the OP is... do what you like and you'll likely never have an issue. Personally, I run Rotella T6 and Motorcraft filters (made by Purolator) from Amazon. That decision isn't based on me thinking it's the safest way to give my 6.7 longevity though. I run the Motorcraft filters because they are cheaper than aftermarket brands and the T6 is approved for so many applications that I run it as a fleet oil in almost every engine I own. It's nice to have commonality in oils so you don't have a ton of half quarts on the shelf...
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Opinions are great and that's what forums are all about. In this case though, I was/am simply saying that no matter who's opinion you take on oil/filter choice, you'll likely have identical results...
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Everyone's method works. Everyone gets to the same place. The advice has no value whatsoever since it doesn't affect the outcome. That's why these oil threads are such a waste of bandwidth.
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Motorcraft filter only for my truck and Rotella T6 for the past 70,000 miles. Motorcraft 15w-40 for the first 50,000.
Ford advises to follow the IOLM. For my 2011 truck, I think the IOLM logic is about right but I admit it took about a dozen oil changes for me to trust it. The one exception, in my opinion, is the first oil change. I prefer to get that oil out by 4,000 miles.
The last oil change on my 6.7L was 8,203 over 25 months with a good oil report, I think the IOLM alerted as change required at 7,500 this time.
I am not running my engines over 10,000 miles between changes, too much fuel dilution with emissions turbo diesels (unrelated here; or even GTDI). I can't even run my 2.7L EcoBoost more than 6,000 miles before the oil reeks of gasoline.
Here's the URL that downloads the latest published approved oil PDF:
https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubrican...SSM2C171F1.pdf
Ford advises to follow the IOLM. For my 2011 truck, I think the IOLM logic is about right but I admit it took about a dozen oil changes for me to trust it. The one exception, in my opinion, is the first oil change. I prefer to get that oil out by 4,000 miles.
The last oil change on my 6.7L was 8,203 over 25 months with a good oil report, I think the IOLM alerted as change required at 7,500 this time.
I am not running my engines over 10,000 miles between changes, too much fuel dilution with emissions turbo diesels (unrelated here; or even GTDI). I can't even run my 2.7L EcoBoost more than 6,000 miles before the oil reeks of gasoline.
Here's the URL that downloads the latest published approved oil PDF:
https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubrican...SSM2C171F1.pdf
I do have have some Triax semi synthetic 10w30 to try but is not on the list. I am half way through my last oil change with MC10w30 (I let the truck tell me when to change). I usually get my oil analyzed. Last change was a little diluted with fuel which is weird as I don't let the truck idle a lot. If I go with Triax, I would probably change at 5k and have it analyzed to see how it performs. I do have 4 gallons of Rotella T6 5w40 and 4 gallons of Rotella T4 10w30 that NAPA had on sale as well to try out. My MC 10w30 6 gallon bags in a box that I scored on sale for 50 bucks each is now gone.
Quick deflect here but my son has a 15 Fusion with the 2.0 EB and I change it 5k miles. There was a Canadian shop owner I saw on YouTube who said to change out oil by 5k miles for the Ecoboost engines. I had the oil analyzed once and it came back good with the 5k mile change.
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Previous employer I worked at had a natural gas fired co-gen unit to make electricity and steam. Plant manager had the bright idea to use royal purble oil in the turbine. (It was the correct grade of oil for the application, not regular automotive oil) Anyway it turned to sludge and destroyed the engine. Replaced with Mobil oil and no further issues after that.
Regarding automotive applications, I've also seen comparison testing where RP finishes last. I think it was a project farm video on youtube.
Regarding automotive applications, I've also seen comparison testing where RP finishes last. I think it was a project farm video on youtube.