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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 01:59 PM
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Can I use my 7 pin trailer plug to run a fuel transfer pump?

I had a 300 gallon portable tank made to fit in the back of my bed. I only need it there some of the time. Can I use the trailer wiring plug for power and ground for my fill-rite pump? Its 20 GPM, says to use a 30 amp circuit. Would be a lot more covenant than having to use an extra battery if I could just power it with the trailer wiring circuit.... 2015 king ranch 6.7
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 02:25 PM
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I'm going to say "probably not". At least on the 2017+, that fuse is 30 amp. If you hookup a 30 amp pump I bet the fuse will blow before you get very far.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 02:43 PM
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As Jim said might be iffy. but in my opinion, worth a try? whats the worst, a blown fuse?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 02:56 PM
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And doesn’t the truck have to “detect” a trailer before it powers the 7 pin also? VIA the trailer brake circuit.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 03:12 PM
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And doesn’t the truck have to “detect” a trailer before it powers the 7 pin also? VIA the trailer brake circuit.
I'm not familiar with the older model, so I didn't address that. If it does have to "sense" the trailer then something will have to be added to the 7 pin to fool the truck into thinking a trailer is really there.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 03:15 PM
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Why not just use up fitter switch?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by slowmans
Why not just use up fitter switch?
I would have to run a bunch of wires plus the upfitter wiring is a major pain to reach in my 2015
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 06:04 PM
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On my 19 the trailer plug has 12v to the power wire with the truck off, but the 12v goes away when the truck is turned on. Still trying to figure that one out.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:00 PM
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Just a quick note. If the pump Mfg says to use a 30 amp circuit it does not mean it pulls 30amps as a constant. Typically the device, in this case your pump will run at 75-80% of the fuse rating. Check the specs on your pump for typical draw.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wylecoyote
On my 19 the trailer plug has 12v to the power wire with the truck off, but the 12v goes away when the truck is turned on. Still trying to figure that one out.
Thats bass ackwards for sure. It sure would **** me off if I was overnight camping in a walmart parking lot and the trailer drained the starting batteries on the truck.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozark-Will
Just a quick note. If the pump Mfg says to use a 30 amp circuit it does not mean it pulls 30amps as a constant. Typically the device, in this case your pump will run at 75-80% of the fuse rating. Check the specs on your pump for typical draw.
True, but the surge amps could be higher than 30 amps. I have a water pump that has a published steady state draw of ~8 amps but a surge of 17 amps. I haven't tested it to see what it really draws. I suspect the surge is quick and not too much since it's usually pumping just air at first.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2021 | 02:49 AM
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Stuck a multimeter on the pins tonight. None of them read 12v with key on
 
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Old Apr 16, 2021 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 90pioneer
Stuck a multimeter on the pins tonight. None of them read 12v with key on
That is because it needs to sense a trailer is plugged in via the brake circuit. They make a “fooler” plug for testing purposes that fools the system into thinking there is a trailer and powering things up long enough to run a test; but IDK if it would work for what you want to do.

PS: For using the upfitter swirches I ran my own wires thru the firewall because my old hands and eyes could not work to connect to the pass thru wires that Ford provided. Made things a lot easier to hook up to the switches.
 

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What is the point of having upfitter switches if you are not going to use them? You may have to run more wire but then you can operate the pump from inside the cab and the pump can stay hooked up all the time.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2021 | 11:28 AM
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What is the point of having upfitter switches if you are not going to use them? You may have to run more wire but then you can operate the pump from inside the cab and the pump can stay hooked up all the time.
Because the tank will not be in the truck the entire time. Its 300 gal and will be used with more than one truck


 
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