Notices

what is rear axle ratio

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 9, 2021 | 07:00 AM
  #1  
24 bolt's Avatar
24 bolt
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
what is rear axle ratio

My recently purchased mostly original 1945 half ton has a 100mph speedometer which appears way off. With it came a box with a 60 mph speedometer that shows the shift points very low, which suggests it has a 411 or 456 rear end "towing gears". I think this speedometer broke and was replaced with a 100 mph one that is wrong, and the original rusted in the poorly stored box because the truck has almost zero rust. It has an open diff and raising the right wheel only and turning the tire backwards 4 times spins the driveshaft 7 times. Or turning the tire 20 times the driveshaft turns exactly 34.5 times. I can't make the math work to match any gears that make sense. I might be able to make one good guage cluster out of the two, but what ratio is the rear, and which speedometer is correct? Thanks guys!

 
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2021 | 08:22 AM
  #2  
tacomacream's Avatar
tacomacream
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,412
Likes: 23
From: East Wenatchee
3.78 to 1

You need the 100 mph speedo
 
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2021 | 06:10 AM
  #3  
38 coupe's Avatar
38 coupe
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,927
Likes: 135
From: Houston
I get ≈ 3.45 to 1 and 3.5 to 1 from the description.
When jacking up only one rear wheel the differential spider gears double the turns of the axle ratio. To check axle ratio turn the single wheel twice and count driveshaft turns. In the checking above:
Wheel spun 4 time, driveshaft 7 times = wheel spun 2 times driveshaft spun 3.5 times -> ≈ 3.5 to 1 ratio
Wheel spun 20 times, driveshaft spun 34.5 times = wheel spun 2 times driveshaft spun 3.45 times -> ≈ 3.45 to 1 ratio

Fords if this era had three common axle ratios, 3.54 (least common, most desirable), 3.78 (by far the most most common), 4.11 (more often found in trucks than cars, least desirable).

It appears you have the desirable 3.54 ratio. Use the 100 mph speedometer. Page 632 of the Green Book gives the following parts to use with that axle ratio.
With 6.00-16 tires:
3 speed transmission use drive gear 21C 17285-C (8 teeth), 4 speed transmission use drive gear 01Y 17285-B (8 teeth), driven gear use 01Y 17271-D (21 teeth)
With 6.50-16, 7.00-16, 7.00-15, 7.50-15, or 9.00-13 (!!!) tires:
3 speed transmission use drive gear 21C 17285-C (8 teeth), 4 speed transmission use drive gear 01Y 17285-B (8 teeth), driven gear use 01Y 17271-C (20 teeth)
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2021 | 07:06 AM
  #4  
24 bolt's Avatar
24 bolt
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Great info!

Wow guys, thanks for the great info. This is a pleasant surprise and now I know how to proceed. Just goes to show experience is very valuable.
 
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2021 | 08:40 AM
  #5  
tony1947's Avatar
tony1947
Cross-Country
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 83
Likes: 18
From: holland ny
hi, I had the same problem,I have a 100mph speedo. that with my 3 speed tranny shows 100mpg at a real 60mph, I found an adaptor thay plugs into the back of my 100mph speedo. and reduces the shown speed down to the correct speed. the adaptor was originally on the 100 mph speedometer ,but I had removed years ago and forgot about. there is one on ebay FYI.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
WingingIt74
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
Aug 26, 2014 08:10 AM
knuckledragger66
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
Mar 31, 2012 08:17 AM
FBNengr
Large Truck
10
Jul 1, 2011 04:01 PM
DougD
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
18
May 24, 2004 11:54 PM
78truckpower429
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
12
Jul 12, 2003 09:45 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:09 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 10:59:05


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE