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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 10:04 PM
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780 HP NA / wipple here now!

Looks like wipple has a blower in the works

 
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 10:13 AM
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nice, that would be a lot of fun in an older stang.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 12:35 PM
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Yeah we've known about the blower for quite a while. Right now I think it's either pre-order or sign up for info only. Procharger does have a kit out though on their website.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 01:01 PM
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780 HP 7.3

Brian Wolfe had previously made 600 hp with his 7.3. Now he is making 780 hp with some more intense mods. This is before the whipple supercharger is added. link below and the article.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36342/...-without-boost

Ford's 7.3-liter Godzilla V8 is capable of big power—we know that. Ex-Ford Racing boss Brian Wolfe has been building one for his Mustang Fox-Body drag car and it already impressed with 600 horsepower early in the year. Fast forward a few months and it's still being built, making monstrous output without the aid of a blower, at least for the moment. In Wolfe's most recent test, he was able to push the naturally aspirated pushrod engine over 780 horsepower. Not too bad.

While there's no turbo or supercharger, this Blue Oval power plant is far from stock. Truthfully, it's set up to run a 3.0-liter Whipple, but Wolfe wanted to warm the engine up beforehand so he could deconstruct it and analyze how it performed. As such, it's got a billet intake as well as a 90-millimeter throttle body mounted on top. There's also a good deal of head work; think CNC ported with titanium valves. Still, they're the stock Ford castings, so that's got to be good for something.

Wolfe also notes that it's running the stock block, stock timing chain and stock oil pump. All of these factory parts have supposedly been strong enough to withstand the mountainous pulls they've performed on the dyno with some tests even reaching 7,600 rpm. That might not sound like a lot for smaller, lighter engines but in a 7.3-liter V8, that's impressive.
Pump gas isn't enough to make this sort of power with the current setup so it's currently running on VP Racing Fuel's C16 blend. For reference, you can buy a five-gallon pail of it online for just over $100. Combined with an upgraded Westcott mechanical roller cam, Wiseco pistons and MGP aluminum connecting rods, it's enough to knock on the door of 800 hp. According to Wolfe, there's "no doubt" it could make over 900 hp in top naturally aspirated form.

If you were to do that, though, he suggests building it accordingly. Equipment like a looser piston ring package, a different cam and a proper throttle body with higher compression would be the key for a more reliable unit.

You can watch the dyno clip here on REVan Evan's YouTube channel here:
Toward the video's end, Wolfe shows the engine fitted with that aforementioned 3.0-liter Whipple supercharger. He says to run in the Altered Street and Extreme Street classes, you've got to make at least 1,550 hp and ideally more to be competitive. Given his experience with the Godzilla V8 so far, he seemingly doesn't expect that to be a problem—and neither do we.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 01:23 PM
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 09:54 PM
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Boy the 5.0L coyote guys hate this 7.3L motor and they like to talk trash about it.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by midnight_f150
Boy the 5.0L coyote guys hate this 7.3L motor and they like to talk trash about it.
Where have you seen that?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 10:31 PM
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I imagine anyone who has gone broke halfway through a 5.0 transplant probably grits their teeth reading about the 7.3. But otherwise, why would they get their undies in a bunch over it....?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2020 | 06:31 AM
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let the 5.0 guys say what ever they want. Im just happy that the aftermarket seems to be taking interest in this engine, unlike the 6.2.
 
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Originally Posted by nick112288
Where have you seen that?
On mustang Forums/Groups/YouTube. They think this motor is a joke and can't understand why people are excited about it when the coyote exists in the world. They can't see it's worth because it's a "low horsepower" pushrod motor in their eye.
Skip to 12.33 for his 7.3L rant.
 

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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by midnight_f150
On mustang Forums/Groups/YouTube. They think this motor is a joke and can't understand why people are excited about it when the coyote exists in the world. They can't see it's worth because it's a "low horsepower" pushrod motor in their eye.
Skip to 12.33 for his 7.3L rant.
https://youtu.be/rDiKGWjxi_o
He seems to be missing the point.

One is a big CI engine with ungodly amounts of down low torque. The other is a fast spinning high hp engine.

Yeah he mentions fox bodies and whatever else. But last I checked I would have 0 interest in swapping a Coyote in a pickup. 7.3 I'd do in a heartbeat.

And lastly simplicity.

Yeah I agree there is nothing amazing or new about the 7.3 v8 vs any other pushrod v8. That is what makes it special though. A simple, modern pushrod v8
 
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Old Sep 17, 2020 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by midnight_f150
On mustang Forums/Groups/YouTube. They think this motor is a joke and can't understand why people are excited about it when the coyote exists in the world. They can't see it's worth because it's a "low horsepower" pushrod motor in their eye.
Skip to 12.33 for his 7.3L rant.
I follow him and he makes a good argument about the amount of work and money you will have to dump into the 7.3 to achieve what already is proven in the Coyote. Power by the Hour out of Florida does exceptional work, Lund tuning is making power, Livernois Speed out of Detroit builds killer motors. So for the average Joe who wants to go fast, keep the weight down and run within a reasonable budget......the Godzilla will be out of reach. No doubt it will make good power but it won't be cheap.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2020 | 10:50 AM
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i guess if your not getting the 5.0 as a crate engine from ford its cheaper. the gen 3 is 9500 according to this https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-M50C. the 7.3 is 8150 https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-73. The coyote is a great engine, but built for a different purpose then the 7.3. Some people will want the largest displacement engine. Plus the 7.3 is lighter then i was expecting @ 580 pounds.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2020 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxium4x4
I follow him and he makes a good argument about the amount of work and money you will have to dump into the 7.3 to achieve what already is proven in the Coyote. Power by the Hour out of Florida does exceptional work, Lund tuning is making power, Livernois Speed out of Detroit builds killer motors. So for the average Joe who wants to go fast, keep the weight down and run within a reasonable budget......the Godzilla will be out of reach. No doubt it will make good power but it won't be cheap.
I still look at it as different uses. Coyote in a race car? Sure. Coyote in a truck? Nope.

Yes I know they come in F150s, I'm talking swapping in to something older.

It's also a RPM thing. If you make the same amount of torque higher in the RPMs, then yeah, you'll make more HP. How much power will a Coyote actually make if it's torque is made at the same RPM as the 7.3
 
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