How to slide 2nd row captains chairs?
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How to slide 2nd row captains chairs?
I thought this deserved its own thread. I have 2nd row captains chairs. There are 2 levers, on on the side of the bottom cushion of the seat and one on the side of the seat seat back. From the diagrams on the seat and my experience, it seems that the one on the bottom when pulled up, allows the seat to recline. The one on the seatback, when pulled, allows the seat back to fold forward and slide to allow access to the 3rd row.
Now, when I first bought my truck, it seems like the pass. side chair is a bit further forward than the drivers. But I couldn't find any way to slide them. I read in the "capains chairs on craigslist" thread that you can indeed slide them if you use the bottom lever. So I hopped in today and tried it, but no dice. And I looked where the diagram is and it doesn't seem to show that lever allowing them to slide. And I don't really see underneath it that well to see the mechanism.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Now, when I first bought my truck, it seems like the pass. side chair is a bit further forward than the drivers. But I couldn't find any way to slide them. I read in the "capains chairs on craigslist" thread that you can indeed slide them if you use the bottom lever. So I hopped in today and tried it, but no dice. And I looked where the diagram is and it doesn't seem to show that lever allowing them to slide. And I don't really see underneath it that well to see the mechanism.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
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The lever on the seat back is what moves it. The one on the bottom just reclines the seat.
When you push the lever on the seat back toward the back of the truck pull forward on the top of the seat back. The seat back should tip forward. Then it should slide on the track.
To put it back in the locked position, push the back back to the normal spot and push the seat toward the back of the truck, to the normal spot.
Were you trying to pull forward on those seatback levers? They don't move that way.
When you push the lever on the seat back toward the back of the truck pull forward on the top of the seat back. The seat back should tip forward. Then it should slide on the track.
To put it back in the locked position, push the back back to the normal spot and push the seat toward the back of the truck, to the normal spot.
Were you trying to pull forward on those seatback levers? They don't move that way.
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I think he was wondering if they moved forward and back like a normal seat.
I read the other thread too and it sounded like the seat would move like a normal seat. But I tested and can't figure out how to get it to move without flipping the back forward. I think the only way they slide is when the seat back flips forward. My guess is when you picked up your Ex one of the seats wasn't fully engaged in the track correctly. So, the two seats were not in the same position.
I read the other thread too and it sounded like the seat would move like a normal seat. But I tested and can't figure out how to get it to move without flipping the back forward. I think the only way they slide is when the seat back flips forward. My guess is when you picked up your Ex one of the seats wasn't fully engaged in the track correctly. So, the two seats were not in the same position.
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I agree, that would be nice. I don't care for the small amount of footroom between the seat and B pillar, I think it makes it tough to get my foot in (for the rare times I'm getting in the back seat).
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In a thread a longgggg time ago, there was a guy that took his Excursion in to a shop to get the second row moved back a little. I believe he also added the front row captain chairs in place of the bench seat or the smaller, second row captain chairs. Maybe I can find that thread.
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Yep, the 2nd row captains chairs work like in a 2 door couple:
You tilt the back forward and the seat slides/tips forward so somebody
can climb into the back row. Once you put the seatback back the seat
slides back into it's one position.
Edit: okay, most coupes the seat does slide on it's track too - but not in an Ex
Since the middle of the 2nd row is empty - not a very useful feature, everybody
just walks on through the opening into the 3rd row.
I'd rather have it about 2 inches further back so there is more room
for the foot getting in/out for folks that try to swing a foot out
before they "stand" up to get out.
You tilt the back forward and the seat slides/tips forward so somebody
can climb into the back row. Once you put the seatback back the seat
slides back into it's one position.
Edit: okay, most coupes the seat does slide on it's track too - but not in an Ex
Since the middle of the 2nd row is empty - not a very useful feature, everybody
just walks on through the opening into the 3rd row.
I'd rather have it about 2 inches further back so there is more room
for the foot getting in/out for folks that try to swing a foot out
before they "stand" up to get out.
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I'd rather have it even further back... I'm thinking 6". Then I can have one adult and 2 small kids in the back if I ever need that capacity, and lots of legroom for 5 or less, which is more usual.
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Found the FTE member that moved his seats back...his are moved back 12 inches.
2002 Ford Excursion 4x4 - Excursion rear seats
He later added the bigger front captain chairs to the back.
2002 Ford Excursion 4x4 - 2002/Ford/Excursion, Limited 4
2002 Ford Excursion 4x4 - Excursion rear seats
He later added the bigger front captain chairs to the back.
2002 Ford Excursion 4x4 - 2002/Ford/Excursion, Limited 4
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so did he reuse the stock rear seat mounts and fab up new mounts, or did he end up needing to drill new holes in the floor? I'm happy with the rear seats, I just wish they slid backwards some.
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The second row seats do slide foward to allow passengers to get into the 3rd seat.
The seats release is operated by a cable.
If you lift the bottom of the seat up, remove the phillips head screws from the seat track covers you will see how the release cable works.
Most all will needed luberciated to function correctly. It is worth while to do this and one can get a clear understanding on how they work. The seats originaly came with directions on how they and were on the door side of the seats. The directions are not as straight foward as they could be. But at any rate simply due to age most all the seat tracks will need to be cleaned and lubeciated. I really don't think anybody used this feature very often.
The seats release is operated by a cable.
If you lift the bottom of the seat up, remove the phillips head screws from the seat track covers you will see how the release cable works.
Most all will needed luberciated to function correctly. It is worth while to do this and one can get a clear understanding on how they work. The seats originaly came with directions on how they and were on the door side of the seats. The directions are not as straight foward as they could be. But at any rate simply due to age most all the seat tracks will need to be cleaned and lubeciated. I really don't think anybody used this feature very often.