Illegal aliens in gun battle with Army
#31
Originally Posted by kw5413
Yeah but, the myth is more palatable.
Was tourist even in our vocabulary back then?
Was tourist even in our vocabulary back then?
A line from the film "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance," directed by John Ford in 1963.
"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend!"
#33
Originally Posted by blue beast
I do put spaces and make paragraphs but for some reason everything
moves over to the left and gets squished together when I post!!
moves over to the left and gets squished together when I post!!
#34
#35
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
After the war ended, the US paid Mexico 15 million dollars for the territory they lost, and an additional 7 million for the Gadsden Purchase of 1854.
This land purchase settled a border dispute between the two countries.
One million dollars then equals roughly 23 million dollars today.
Davy Crockett didn't die fighting at the Alamo, he was captured after the battle ended. When asked what he was doing there, he said he was a tourist.
He and others captured were later executed by the order of Mexican General Antonio de Santa Anna, who was also El Presidente de Mexico.
This land purchase settled a border dispute between the two countries.
One million dollars then equals roughly 23 million dollars today.
Davy Crockett didn't die fighting at the Alamo, he was captured after the battle ended. When asked what he was doing there, he said he was a tourist.
He and others captured were later executed by the order of Mexican General Antonio de Santa Anna, who was also El Presidente de Mexico.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett
#36
It is a fact if you walk around with your eyes open and talk to people around here
it is pretty easy to see things are changing in this country and a visit to Miami will
give you a clue to what is happening all over sooner than later if we aren't careful!!
I tell you during 4th of july and new years there is mighty big calibers being sprayed
into the air here, and if you check the ammo shelves at the Walmart there is a lack
of 40 caliber and 9 mm ammo from them!! Someone is stocking up or using quite a
bit of it, Probably a bit of both if you watch the news around here. I don't want to
scare you come here for vacation the D world needs the money and the tourist areas
are usually left alone by the thugs except for car burgalary since they know alot of
tourists are leaving computers and cameras in cars.
Hey look at that!! a paragraph!!
It is a alot of things working together and really the whole world is changing and
we basically did the same thing here against England. They were the world super
power for a long time and had colonies all over the world and then we supplanted
them and our dollar became the new standard for trade, Now we are on that decline
the decline of our moneys power and the Power gain of the Eu euros and it is looking
like it is the coming standard of trade.(business' in new york are accepting it)
The countries where we have bases and little else are trying to force us out and
China wants us out of their entire area the Phillipines were getting uppity since we
pulled a lot of our men out of there so we started flying some stealth bombers and
other planes in there so we had more of a prescence, Which is really strange since
the stealths have always taken off from our soil and flew to their bombing missions
and then returned here to the USA so it kind of makes me wonder! The Phillipines
are a hot bed of muslim activity and they are recruiting the people there left and
right.
It is a basic human nature to want to root for the under dog and topple those who
have the most power and when you take the position of power you are going to have
those that will try to take you down. It doesn't matter if you are the ceo of a major
corporation or the corporation itself, a top athelete or the first one from the stop
light, or you post a not so popular opinion on a message board!! It is just what happens and we shouldn't be suprised when there are those from within or the outside
who want to change how this country is. It is why there is the framework that the
forefathers made and based this country on, They learned from the mistakes of England and didn't want to see a repeat of england with their new baby but it seems
like that is where we are heading with the taxes, foreign policies, corporate policies,
and the way we conduct warfare. A well timed terrorist attack and a call to suspend
elections and we may well have a dictatorship that has a family heir component since
bush #2 (haha# 2) will hold the throne/white house(parallel w/england intentional)
captive because of our supposed fear of another threat of attack and he could always
hand it to his brother or another relative and there we go headlong into a monarchy
Psuedo royalty setup.
It can happen and has happened in the past, it could almost
happen overnight if the media sensationalizes the attack and just blurbs on the hold
up of the election. It is a possibility and marshall law will be enacted at the same time
and no you will not have much to say about the whole thing!!
it is pretty easy to see things are changing in this country and a visit to Miami will
give you a clue to what is happening all over sooner than later if we aren't careful!!
I tell you during 4th of july and new years there is mighty big calibers being sprayed
into the air here, and if you check the ammo shelves at the Walmart there is a lack
of 40 caliber and 9 mm ammo from them!! Someone is stocking up or using quite a
bit of it, Probably a bit of both if you watch the news around here. I don't want to
scare you come here for vacation the D world needs the money and the tourist areas
are usually left alone by the thugs except for car burgalary since they know alot of
tourists are leaving computers and cameras in cars.
Hey look at that!! a paragraph!!
It is a alot of things working together and really the whole world is changing and
we basically did the same thing here against England. They were the world super
power for a long time and had colonies all over the world and then we supplanted
them and our dollar became the new standard for trade, Now we are on that decline
the decline of our moneys power and the Power gain of the Eu euros and it is looking
like it is the coming standard of trade.(business' in new york are accepting it)
The countries where we have bases and little else are trying to force us out and
China wants us out of their entire area the Phillipines were getting uppity since we
pulled a lot of our men out of there so we started flying some stealth bombers and
other planes in there so we had more of a prescence, Which is really strange since
the stealths have always taken off from our soil and flew to their bombing missions
and then returned here to the USA so it kind of makes me wonder! The Phillipines
are a hot bed of muslim activity and they are recruiting the people there left and
right.
It is a basic human nature to want to root for the under dog and topple those who
have the most power and when you take the position of power you are going to have
those that will try to take you down. It doesn't matter if you are the ceo of a major
corporation or the corporation itself, a top athelete or the first one from the stop
light, or you post a not so popular opinion on a message board!! It is just what happens and we shouldn't be suprised when there are those from within or the outside
who want to change how this country is. It is why there is the framework that the
forefathers made and based this country on, They learned from the mistakes of England and didn't want to see a repeat of england with their new baby but it seems
like that is where we are heading with the taxes, foreign policies, corporate policies,
and the way we conduct warfare. A well timed terrorist attack and a call to suspend
elections and we may well have a dictatorship that has a family heir component since
bush #2 (haha# 2) will hold the throne/white house(parallel w/england intentional)
captive because of our supposed fear of another threat of attack and he could always
hand it to his brother or another relative and there we go headlong into a monarchy
Psuedo royalty setup.
It can happen and has happened in the past, it could almost
happen overnight if the media sensationalizes the attack and just blurbs on the hold
up of the election. It is a possibility and marshall law will be enacted at the same time
and no you will not have much to say about the whole thing!!
#38
Originally Posted by Texas Outlaw
The theory of Crockett having not died in the Battle of The Alamo has never been proven. There is actually more evidence to show that he did die in the final minutes of the battle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett
The last time I was at the Alamo, the docents there espoused the same theory of Crockett's "tourist" lament.
Stayed across the street at the Menger Hotel, another historic venue in San Antonio. The Mengers bar is where TR met with the Rough Rider recruits for the first time.
Then there's the Buckhorn Saloon and a branch of the Texas Rangers Museum...lotta things to see and do there for an historian.
#39
Lemme tell you a little something, Numberdummy (and anyone else who cares to listen)....
Regarding Crockett.....
WHO CARES!?!!!
I think that any man who stayed inside that fort, knowing that the Mexicans ran up the no-quarter flag, and that no reinforcements were coming, and STILL decided to stay instead of trying to sneak out, showed ballz enough. Anyone got a problem with that?.....
Who the hell cares if Crockett died swinging his rifle butt, or died of his wounds soon after the battle ended, or was executed after trying to make like he was a 'tourist' (Jesus, Numberdummy....You can't believe that this was anything other than made-up, or bulls--t on Crockett's part......Did they even HAVE tourists back then?).....He stayed and fought and that's that.....
Now if he WAS captured (like YOU seem so ready to believe, rather than the 'white-washing' history).....You think maybe he was wounded at least? What would YOU do or say if surrounded by a ring of pissed-off Mexicans who just lost a thousand of their compadres, with fixed bayonets and ready to skewer you---and Santa Anna, the Napoleon of the Western Hemisphere who had no problem at all killing prisoners....
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm honest to admit that, given similar circumstances, I might have said..... "Hey....the battle's over....I'm caught, I'm shot, the fort is gone....why play hero"?........."Wait a minute, I'll tell 'em I'm a tourist"!!!....Maybe I can buy my way out by telling them a great salsa recipe and showing them a picture of my see-ster"!.....
Regarding Crockett.....
WHO CARES!?!!!
I think that any man who stayed inside that fort, knowing that the Mexicans ran up the no-quarter flag, and that no reinforcements were coming, and STILL decided to stay instead of trying to sneak out, showed ballz enough. Anyone got a problem with that?.....
Who the hell cares if Crockett died swinging his rifle butt, or died of his wounds soon after the battle ended, or was executed after trying to make like he was a 'tourist' (Jesus, Numberdummy....You can't believe that this was anything other than made-up, or bulls--t on Crockett's part......Did they even HAVE tourists back then?).....He stayed and fought and that's that.....
Now if he WAS captured (like YOU seem so ready to believe, rather than the 'white-washing' history).....You think maybe he was wounded at least? What would YOU do or say if surrounded by a ring of pissed-off Mexicans who just lost a thousand of their compadres, with fixed bayonets and ready to skewer you---and Santa Anna, the Napoleon of the Western Hemisphere who had no problem at all killing prisoners....
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm honest to admit that, given similar circumstances, I might have said..... "Hey....the battle's over....I'm caught, I'm shot, the fort is gone....why play hero"?........."Wait a minute, I'll tell 'em I'm a tourist"!!!....Maybe I can buy my way out by telling them a great salsa recipe and showing them a picture of my see-ster"!.....
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#42
Yes there has been tourists for a long time, Most Americans have a UScentric
view of the world like the creation of america was also the creation of those
other countries back in the old world!! There were rich folks coming to these
shores and seeing the old west just to say they saw the new world and then
took the long sea voyage back. It only makes business sense to the captains
that were trudging across the atlantic sure some timber and whatnot was also
brought back to the old world but having a set of paying passengers going to
and from would be very smart and I am sure there was a cruise booking company
somewhere in england, spain, portugal etc. etc.
English people were touring in
indo china for along time and elsewhere. We as a people are destined to want to
see that which we have never seen and will do about anything to see it Fly in big
metal birds, boat, car or even walk if they had to. Amerigo vespucci and vikings
could be considered tourist after the first few voyages after the new world was
discovered they didn't stop sailing because they found it, They kept doing it to
see things and document them to say hey I went there and drew this picture(kind
of like a old time kodak)
view of the world like the creation of america was also the creation of those
other countries back in the old world!! There were rich folks coming to these
shores and seeing the old west just to say they saw the new world and then
took the long sea voyage back. It only makes business sense to the captains
that were trudging across the atlantic sure some timber and whatnot was also
brought back to the old world but having a set of paying passengers going to
and from would be very smart and I am sure there was a cruise booking company
somewhere in england, spain, portugal etc. etc.
English people were touring in
indo china for along time and elsewhere. We as a people are destined to want to
see that which we have never seen and will do about anything to see it Fly in big
metal birds, boat, car or even walk if they had to. Amerigo vespucci and vikings
could be considered tourist after the first few voyages after the new world was
discovered they didn't stop sailing because they found it, They kept doing it to
see things and document them to say hey I went there and drew this picture(kind
of like a old time kodak)
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