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Old 07-06-2007, 03:08 AM
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Yep, my TDI was the same, just wasn't prepared for it on this thing.

I found I/they will have to take off the lower cover/skid plate to access it...

I'm going to have fun with the headlights on this thing. Not building a harness, but I can put H9 bulbs in place of the H11 for low beam (if there isn't too much glare) and the HIR 9011 in place of the 9005 high beams. This thing won't even need driving lights.

The highbeams on the Sequoia absolutely suck, no matter the bulb and aim. It was just a weird "V" of light and poor at that. One of the worst I've experienced.
 

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Old 07-06-2007, 03:14 AM
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You sound like you really know your lights!!!....


Hurry up and give that Toy a thorough shakedown run...........I look forward to your unbiased opinion.
 
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:35 AM
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Lights are fun . The H9's are 65w and 2100 lumens, the stock bulbs are about 1350 from 55w...

Filament is in the same place, so hopefully it will fly.

The HIR bulbs are great, already played with them once on a chevy...world's of difference. They are definitely going in.

Wish there was something like these options for Fords.
 

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On some new vehicles, the manufacturers don't recommend using the new bulbs with the existing wiring harnesses.
 
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:06 AM
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I feel pretty safe with these. The highs draw the same wattage and the lows are only 10w more. If the wiring is the same gauge for both (likely), I'm going to assume the best...if not, I'll make a harness.

The unfortunate, but in this case fortunate part is that, the latest Toys don't seem to put much voltage out from the alt. unless it really needs it (I can't say I 100% understand the workings) From what i just read, it seems to be true with these also. They've got built in regulators, but so does my F150. They seem to only put out 13.2-13.8v most of the time instead of 14+. Even half a volt makes a huge difference.

I've made harnesses for many vehicles with great results, I've made them for 2 toyotas with no discernible difference in output, even on hi-po bulbs.

Wonder if these still use the switched ground?

What exactly do you mean by "new bulbs"? Silverstar type bulbs? HID? This is a far different situation than the start-up juice an HID ballast requires. That I would understand. HIR and HID are completely different animals.

EDIT: for those interested http://hirheadlights.com/

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Old 07-06-2007, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tdister
What exactly do you mean by "new bulbs"? Silverstar type bulbs? HID? This is a far different situation than the start-up voltage an HID ballast requires. That I would understand. HIR and HID are completely different animals.
The bulbs that give better low beam range, whatever type they are. All I know is the headlamp bulbs used today may be brighter, but the range isn't as great as the old sealed beam halogen bulbs.


BTW...check your headlamp adjustment. Every new vehicle I've bought in the last 5 years has needed the lamps adjusted properly. On my 2004 Lariat, the low beams lit the top of trees, the high beams would do in a pinch for aircraft beacons!
 
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:26 AM
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Likely HID is what you speak of. not a fan of most conversions for several reasons.

The lows worked great and were perfectly aligned. Since it's a shared lamp and bulb between the beams, the highs were too. Had them aimed when it when in for it's first check up, just in case. They didn't charge cause they didn't do anything...

They worked fine for driving around a neighborhood, where they were less important, but were sorry for country roads and higher speeds. heard the same complaints several times on the Toy forum I've gone to.

The best "plain" halogens I have used are some Sylvania Xtravision sealed beam lights on my Rabbit. They put my F150's lights to shame, even with the 20+ year old wiring that was running to them at first. Put most any cars lights to shame really. I would find it hard to disagree with you.

Hmm...oh yeah, probably should get this thread back on Tundra and F150...

Will give it a thorough workout in many conditions hopefully
 

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Old 07-06-2007, 04:43 AM
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Don't be concerned about getting this thread back on topic...they'll be plenty of others that will chime in soon. All one has to do on FTE is mention the word Tundra, it's a word akin to the plague. If you look in the forum: Ford vs the Competition, you'll see why.
 

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Old 07-06-2007, 05:32 AM
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Traitor, traitor, why don't you move to Japan and eat some rice. People like you are the problem with america today. The Tundra ain't nothing but a pile of junk, it'll be broke down within the first week, and the bed will probably bounce right off the first pothole you hit...and you'll deserve it too you commie lovin anti american pot smoking hippy...

If I were to buy a half ton truck today, it would be a Tundra. Hope they enjoy theirs.

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Old 07-06-2007, 04:33 PM
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So far...I really like it. For better or worse, it is big inside and out. Not impossible to park, dimensions are easy to perceive, it's just bigger than what I'm used to (excluding the '67 F600 Dump truck I've put a few miles on lately). Good visibility.

Ride is not cadillac quality, nor should it be. I assume the Bilsteins will need some time to break in, as usual. F150 would probably win in this category so far if the requirements were plushness, never drove a non-TRD Tundra though, YMMV. Handles bumpy roads very nicely as far as control goes. Haven't played with tire pressure yet. Overall handling is pretty good considering. It could always be better, but I'm not disappointed and my standards are pretty high here. Overall driving feel is more than decent.

Breaks are fantastic, a definite winner. I've been trying to go kinda easy on them and did bed them in on the way home this morning. I had an emergency stop on the way to the store and they sure did the job. Hauled down quickly, minimum of dive and hitting some good sized bumps didn't faze it. Decent feedback. Hopefully they stay this way.

More than enough power, though I haven't really gotten on it yet (gonna give it a few miles first). I can't say I'm in absolute awe with it, but I also realize the Fly by wire could be hindering my judgments. It is easy to drive it at low speeds, you aren't scared of hitting the throttle 1/16" too far down, but no hesitation either. Tranny shifts nicely 99% of the time, a couple times were odd, but I think it was more to do with the programming and it trying to "predict the future" than anything. Something else I'd need to get used to, very different than my 4spd.

Seats are great so far. Easy for me to get a good driving position. A/c seems to work very well, but isn't particularly hot out (being white and having factory tint all around helps here, I'm sure). Stereo is decent sound-wise, but I expected more from the top line 12 speaker system (haven't adjusted settings). FM reception is poor, XM seems great. Hands free phone is easy to hear through, the other persn apparently can't here you all that well all the time though.

Dog really likes the back window rolling all the way down. Still getting used to all the bells and whistles and still need to look at what I'm adjusting, hasn't fallen into pace yet. Back up cam is nice, the screen could be a little bigger though.

It draws lots of attn. parked and driving. Can't say they look disgusted either. Haven't used it as a truck yet, and most likely won't for the time being. No night driving yet either.

It is a far cry from the last Tundra. It wasn't horrible, but this one is much better. I can't say I regret swapping the Sequoia for it.

As always, feel free with any questions.
 

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Old 07-06-2007, 05:30 PM
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I've been trying to find a reg cab Tundra with the 5.7 to drive. I've spent a afternoon driving a friends excab Tundra. I liked it a lot but my next truck will be reg cab short bed. The only reg cab Tundra I've seen was the small V8. I like the looks of this style truck.
 
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lariat97
I've been trying to find a reg cab Tundra with the 5.7 to drive. I've spent a afternoon driving a friends excab Tundra. I liked it a lot but my next truck will be reg cab short bed. The only reg cab Tundra I've seen was the small V8. I like the looks of this style truck.
Don't know where you are in Tennessee but I drove a pretty black standard cab ahort bed 4X4 with 5.7 at Jay Johnson Toyota in Bristol, Tennessee. It had the most go and the most stop of any truck I have ever been in.
 
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:49 PM
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I'm 6-5 335 lbs, what DOHCMarauder calls an oversized sasquatch. The Tundra seats don't have enough height adjustment, and without the power pedals, it's uncomfortable for me to drive. To say I was disappointed in the new Tundra would be an understatement.


The F150 Lariat seats are as hard as a rock. Within weeks of buying a 2004, I had the seats repadded, didn't help much. The tilt wheel on the F150 doesn't have enough adjustments, and the height distance between the gas and brake pedals is excessive. If the 2009 F150 adds a telescopic wheel, I will consider one. The Sequoia is a nice vehicle, but the step in height is excessive, rather surprising considering it has 16" wheels.


I've driven every large truck and suv sold in the US. Finding something that's a perfect fit is impossible. Tho, what I'm driving now is the best yet.
So all brand and models don't work for you.The solution to your problem, Born again.
 
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:04 AM
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To be honest I have started to feel curiosity about this new tundra. In this suposed ford forum, miracles and asome thing are being posted. Tomorrow I will go to yotas dealer to tested the tundra.
 
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:34 AM
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The headlights are very very bright. They are aimed too high right now, by quite a bit. I will aim them as soon as i can find a suitable location (flat enough). They are very close to even, but the drivers side is up a tad higher. The high beams are very bright too, but only light up tops of trees right now...and that's with just me in it.

I bought an H9 bulb to try out. Way too much. Even with the cutoff below eye level, the brightness off the reflector is intense. Might be better when aimed lower...but probably a better mod for a projector light. Beautiful color though.

I don't think any more light is needed for low beam anyway, they light everything they reach very nicely...even though they reach too far right now. A far cry from the Sequoia. Even better than my upgraded lights on my F150 and the aforementioned Rabbit. Puts the lights on my sister's '06 F150 to shame from what I remember when they were stock.

The fog lights, while bright, offer no real improvement in visibility. Maybe better when it's wet out. They are off for now.

Still doing the 9011 for the high beam either way. I have to do something to it. Oh, and some better reverse bulbs. Can't see but half the area the camera covers when dark out. Maybe some stealth bulbs for the turn signals too.

They didn't seem to keen on me driving the reg. cab this morning...

I was surprised at how much space was behind the seat of the RC shorty. More than enough for my 70 lb. Lab to be comfy in. As they said, 5 gallon buckets would easily fit back there. Never looked at a reg cab F150 closely to compare. It wouldn't be as convenient as the Ford lacking the tiny access doors. I assume you would have to readjust your seat every time you flipped it to gain decent access.
 


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