tires
#17
Originally Posted by tylus
you are the first person I've seen to slam the Revo's...did you have the LT or the P tires? and on what vehicle? and these weren't part of the Firestone recalls from 2000/2001 were they?
No the tires were not part of a recall... but should have been!
#18
#19
May have, but the tire shop knew of my "unhappiness" of the tires, and that is why they tried to keep me as a customer. But whether it were a P rated or LT rated tire, which is what i assume the last set was.... being a top notch top line tire for them... it did not surpass my needs and traction!
#20
Okay, think about this for a second...
we drive half ton trucks, which are designed to not only haul stuff, but also have a civilized ride to them as well. Just because tires are rated "P" instead of "LT" does NOT mean that they are incapable of doing just fine on our trucks.
The General Ameritracs that are on my F150 have a service description of "110S" A 110 load index means that the tires are rated for2337 lbs a piece.
My 2007 Screw has 2446 lbs on the rear axle when empty, and you figure I have two tires on that axle rated at 2337 lbs a piece, which gives me the maximum TIRE capacity on the rear at 4674 lbs. This means that I can load another 2228 lbs in the bed without exceeding the tire's capacity. HOW is this not enough tire for you? Heck, in order to max that out, I'd be ~800 lbs OVER GVWR.
By the way, I have the stock generals on my F150, and I bought my '95 Blazer used a few months ago with the Dueler Revo's on it. I can't tell much of a difference. IMO the Dueler Revo's a great tire, but it doesn't have much on the Generals either. Never taken the F150 off road much, but in every case I've ever used the 4x4, I've never gotten stuck, or have I come anywhere close to being stuck.
I'm off my rant now!
we drive half ton trucks, which are designed to not only haul stuff, but also have a civilized ride to them as well. Just because tires are rated "P" instead of "LT" does NOT mean that they are incapable of doing just fine on our trucks.
The General Ameritracs that are on my F150 have a service description of "110S" A 110 load index means that the tires are rated for2337 lbs a piece.
My 2007 Screw has 2446 lbs on the rear axle when empty, and you figure I have two tires on that axle rated at 2337 lbs a piece, which gives me the maximum TIRE capacity on the rear at 4674 lbs. This means that I can load another 2228 lbs in the bed without exceeding the tire's capacity. HOW is this not enough tire for you? Heck, in order to max that out, I'd be ~800 lbs OVER GVWR.
By the way, I have the stock generals on my F150, and I bought my '95 Blazer used a few months ago with the Dueler Revo's on it. I can't tell much of a difference. IMO the Dueler Revo's a great tire, but it doesn't have much on the Generals either. Never taken the F150 off road much, but in every case I've ever used the 4x4, I've never gotten stuck, or have I come anywhere close to being stuck.
I'm off my rant now!
#21
Be careful with those Generals...my 98 F-150 had those POS as OEM, and the stupid things started chunking off when we were 4x4ing in West Texas. Alot of gravel roads and mud. We took 'em back to the dealership and they said that the tire wouldn't be covered because we had taken them offroad.
if you haven't gotten stuck yet, you haven't been trying hard enough.
but, just for the record, the P rated tires are not good enough for out trucks. these trucks weigh alot. the P rated tires wear out faster and have more sidewall flex. this flex makes it more dangerous to tow, and can get interesting during sudden braking.
if you haven't gotten stuck yet, you haven't been trying hard enough.
but, just for the record, the P rated tires are not good enough for out trucks. these trucks weigh alot. the P rated tires wear out faster and have more sidewall flex. this flex makes it more dangerous to tow, and can get interesting during sudden braking.
#22
Originally Posted by tylus
Be careful with those Generals...my 98 F-150 had those POS as OEM, and the stupid things started chunking off when we were 4x4ing in West Texas. Alot of gravel roads and mud. We took 'em back to the dealership and they said that the tire wouldn't be covered because we had taken them offroad.
if you haven't gotten stuck yet, you haven't been trying hard enough.
but, just for the record, the P rated tires are not good enough for out trucks. these trucks weigh alot. the P rated tires wear out faster and have more sidewall flex. this flex makes it more dangerous to tow, and can get interesting during sudden braking.
if you haven't gotten stuck yet, you haven't been trying hard enough.
but, just for the record, the P rated tires are not good enough for out trucks. these trucks weigh alot. the P rated tires wear out faster and have more sidewall flex. this flex makes it more dangerous to tow, and can get interesting during sudden braking.
The sidewall stability is night and day from the Americraps.
#24
You guys should count yourself lucky. I have the stock tires on my truck an 05 Fx4 and its time to change them. Guess how many miles??????
9,132 thats what living in the virgin islands does. No highways around here. I am quite happy too that i got that many out of them with no flats at all.
9,132 thats what living in the virgin islands does. No highways around here. I am quite happy too that i got that many out of them with no flats at all.
#27
#28
P rated tires are fine for a truck if all you do is haul groceries. Try hanging an 8000 pound trailer on the back and cruise down a hilly, winding road and you will quickly see the advantages of an LT tire. Its not always about the weight rating!
Manufactures use P rated tires because 90% of the pickups are pleasure vehicles and they want them to ride like a Lincoln Town Car, not to mention the P rated tires are cheaper.
Manufactures use P rated tires because 90% of the pickups are pleasure vehicles and they want them to ride like a Lincoln Town Car, not to mention the P rated tires are cheaper.
#29
Originally Posted by BrianFX4
Hey Cuisinart I agree I run the NItto TG ATs and I think they are great. I live in CO and this year the winter was brutal. These tires preformed AWESOME inthe snow and ice. I can't believe how many trucks I actually pulled out of the snow.
Now I've heard good word about the Bridgestone Revo's, but have never owned them. My last truck 02 F150 Scab FX4 had the BFG T/A KO's and I loved them. Can't wait for these stockers to wear out so I can get another pair of the BFG T/A KO's. These tries were/are great in any type of weather and are even pretty decent on drive pavement. Just my opinion though.
Last edited by V8EXPLR; 04-13-2007 at 12:34 PM.
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