I'm new to the forum but have a question. Looking to buy a new truck (2004 model). It's a tie between the price on a Toyota Tundra Access Cab V8 4.7 and the F-150 XLT Super Cab 5.4. Any problems with the new Ford F-150s. It's a new design and my experience with Fords so far is that they have bugs with new designs for the first couple of years. Toyota is Toyota (Tundra is made in Indiana by the way). Comments? Replies.

Thanks,
Dann1947

1994 F-150 XLT 5.0

 

I'd buy the Ford.

 

Dann,

Are you getting the Toyota prices out of a price list, or off the sticker of trucks you can actually find on a dealer's lot? The reason I asked is when I actually went to a Toyota dealer, most of his Tundras had an extra $3,000 to $4,000 in options I didn't need. Of course, if you order the vehicle, you can avoid the extra options.

To answer the second part, my F-150 has no bugs. It's just hard to believe how well this truck drives and handles. I completely forget I'm driving a truck -- untill it's time to find a parking spot.

 

Dann1947:

Welcome to FTE Forum. If you will read through the pages on this forum, you will find all the information necessary to make an informed decision. All problem areas, and many non-problem areas, have been documented here at long length. I have no idea how an F-150 compares to a Tundra but I'm sure someone here has owned both. Research the archives for the word Tundra and you'll find many similar posts and/or queries. I'm sure the Tundra is a fine vehicle. Depending on your intended use, one might be more desirable than the other. I suppose there might be something the Tundra is better at than a 2004 F-150 but not in my book.

 

just traded my 03 tundra in on a 04 f-150 and have no regrets you're getting 3xthe truck for the money!!!!

 

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Isn't the F150 equal to the Silverado 1500 which is equal to a 1500 SLT Dodge Ram which is equal to the Titan (Titan equal .... HA HA) Which are all more heavy duty than the T100 or Tundra which is like a F100 (Lord, I didn't mean that) as far as capacity goes? Should it not be a T150 if it is equal?

 

Toyota actually wanted to call it the T-150 because it was a heavier duty successor to the T-100. The name was scrapped because it sounded too similar to the F-150. I would say go for the F-150, it's a better all around truck. My family's last few Fords have had a lot more bugs later in their life than our Toyotas and we therefore now own a 2001 Tundra, but I feel that the small reliability risk is worth it to get a better all around vehicle.

 

You own a Toyota but are here, in FTE how did that happen?

 

Basically curiosity. I wanted to see what Ford guys think of the competition and there are a few other interesting topics worth reading. I don't actually own the Tundra, it's my dad. I am 19 and don't have much use for a truck so my daily driver is a VW Golf.

 

Welcome.

Well, the Access Cab is bigger. You CANNOT get a 6 passenger Access Cab though. (Or I haven't ever seen one).

Do you need more room?

Honestly, to me, both trucks are equally nice. I would personally get the one that I got the best deal on. Which would probably be the Ford...

 

The F150 definetly feels sturdier, bigger, and is quiter, my only concern buying one is as you said-reliability. I own neither, but have both in the family. If your main intention is fairly constant work get the F, even if it breaks, it's much more suited for the duty (no question, to me). If your main purpose is a commuter vehicle that does double-duty as a truck I would personally steer you towards the Toy.

A few members just had too many tranny problems with the f150's/expedition(used to be an all-Ford family). Decided to try the Toy's and, out of 3 w/ over 200k between them, none have/had been to the dealer since purchased. The 4.7 has shown better mileage and, as far as working on the engine-well, look for yourself.

The tranny behind the 4.7 seems to be perfect for daily driving w/ no load/light loads but, they don't seem to like heavy loads much (according to the other pages I surf). The F150's seem to be much more work oriented in general-maybe we just got a few bad ones(the one I currently drive has 130K trouble-free miles). Either way, they're both excellent trucks overall.

 

Having recently gone on test drives with a freind (who ended up buying the Tundra), here is my take on the differences. Note that he traded in a 1989 Ranger 4x4, so he did not have a bias for Toyota, quite the opposite. The GMC Sierra was also a contender.

Both were 4x4 extended cab models with "off road" packages, power everything and automatic transmissions.

Interior room and appointments: Ford

On road ride and handling: Toyota

Power (acceleration): Toyota

Price comparably equpped: Toyota (he got a 2005 for $28k)

Rated towing capacity: Ford

Cargo box volume: Ford

Since the truck was purchased as a personal commuter and for trips to Home Depot, the Tundra wins. F-150 would probably be a better choice for towing, or if you needed to carry adults in the back seat.

In my opinion, the new F-150 is too heavy. Ford, and Dodge too, need to consider weight when designing half-ton trucks. Even with the 5.4 and with no cargo or trailer, the F-150 felt like it was struggling to accelerate. My 1994 F-150 has a curb weight of 4425. This 2004 is 1000 lbs more!

Jim

 

Stronger frames, brakes, & all the addon goodies cost weight. MY 03 F350 SCrew weighs 7700 lbs but is hauls most anything halluable. Bet your 94 didn't have half the goodies the 04 does.

 

Thats fine for a Super Duty, but were talking a half-tonner for light duty use and commuting. You do not need all of that excess weight. It just costs gas and everyday driving pleasure.

Jim