V10 Headers
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V10 Headers
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I was just wondering what header options are available for the V10. I have a 2000 SD Manual Transmission. I know Thorley has some but I was wondering if any other manufactures have any. I appreciate any help. Thanks
I was just wondering what header options are available for the V10. I have a 2000 SD Manual Transmission. I know Thorley has some but I was wondering if any other manufactures have any. I appreciate any help. Thanks
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I don't know about V-10 headers, but I was looking at Kenne-Bell's site and they say they've tested every known brand of header for the V-10 and they recommend staying with the stock exhaust manifolds. Read for yourself at: http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...s-and-suvs.pdf
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Okay, I know that Kenne Bell is supposed to be an expert, but I call B.S. on his opinion of headers. I've built too many engines and seen first hand what a better breathing exhaust system can do, to believe his rantings on this subject. If they didnt improve performance, or hurt performance, you wouldnt see them on EVERY racing engine in EVERY racing sport in the world that allows them. NASCAR and NHRA engines would have stock manifolds if they were so great. I know our V10's are somewhat unique, but the principles of operation are the same. If you allow an engine to breath better, it WILL increase it's performance. You wont see much by just installing headers by themselves, but combine that with a few other mods, and the results are evident. 
Last edited by airtractrdrivr; Apr 8, 2004 at 11:04 AM.
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I know that headers usually improve high RPM power, but I thought the Triton V-10 was a low-rev torque monster. No offense Airtractrdrivr, but unless you have more than your "I've built too many engines..." line, I'm gonna take KB's word on this one.
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That's fine man, I wasnt trying to get you to take my opinion anyway. Believe what you want. I have headers on my V10, and I noticed an improvement. I also have other mods, and that helps also. Most others that have headers on their 10's have noticed an improvement, also, from what I have read here. I know Kenne Bell has vast knowledge, but I also know that all of us cant be wrong, either. YOu are correct that the V10 is a low RPM torque producer, but from my own experience, the headers DO make an improvement across the entire powerband. As far as having more to back up my comments, I used to drag race and did all my own engine work. I learned from a lot of trial and error, and from other engine builders in my area, what works and what doesnt. I own a 9 second '67 Fastback now that I built the motor for. I think everyone has read Kenne Bell's take on the V10 headers, and some accept it, some dont. I personally, from my own experience, do not. If you do, that's great, too! By the way, no offense taken! 
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I have borla headers on mine and a Kenne Bell Supercharger. I had the headers on before the supercharger. I do believe I lost some low end torque with the headers but I don't know any one that agrees with Bells philosophy on headers. I know the boost a pump he hypes sucks... at least it did on my truck. I replaced the boost a pump with a 235 lph fuel pump and 42# injectors. I also scrapped the KB chip in favor of a custom chip.
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To answer your question, there are Borlas, Banks, Gibson, Thorley and JBA. Gibson and JBA are manifold replacement only styles. The others include a new Y pipe.
I don't know where everyone gets this low rpm torque crap from. When I'm towing and hit a grade, I'm turning 3000-4000rpms. The headers really improved performance.
I don't know where everyone gets this low rpm torque crap from. When I'm towing and hit a grade, I'm turning 3000-4000rpms. The headers really improved performance.
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Originally Posted by V10man
To answer your question, there are Borlas, Banks, Gibson, Thorley and JBA. Gibson and JBA are manifold replacement only styles. The others include a new Y pipe.
I don't know where everyone gets this low rpm torque crap from. When I'm towing and hit a grade, I'm turning 3000-4000rpms. The headers really improved performance.
I don't know where everyone gets this low rpm torque crap from. When I'm towing and hit a grade, I'm turning 3000-4000rpms. The headers really improved performance.
I just don't want everyone to run out and spend that kind of money believing it's going to turn their V10 into a rocket ship because someone's butt dyno tells them so. I wish I would have dynoed mine before the headers were on but unfortunately I did not.
Like I said before I don't agree with Bell about headers.... obviously... I still have mine on. The little I feel I lost in LOW end torque was picked up elsewhere.
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I think what V10man meant was, who cares about some low end torque loss when most of our towing operations require high end power to pull grades at 65 mph. That is what I am personally interested in... how well I take the Rocky Mountains not take off from a stop light.
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Yeah thats what I ment..
Take a look at Banks test: http://www.bankspower.com/test_results_AF05.cfm
No loss in tq anywhere. What I think is happening is you don't really loose tq it just gets moved around the rpm scale.
Take a look at Banks test: http://www.bankspower.com/test_results_AF05.cfm
No loss in tq anywhere. What I think is happening is you don't really loose tq it just gets moved around the rpm scale.
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Originally Posted by bigslurrp
I think what V10man meant was, who cares about some low end torque loss when most of our towing operations require high end power to pull grades at 65 mph. That is what I am personally interested in... how well I take the Rocky Mountains not take off from a stop light.
I don't tow anything but I would suspect with the addition of headers the torque numbers would increase in the rpm range that would be most beneficial for you. Not sure if they would increase much over a new y- pipe and catback system to warrant the cost though.
