Alternate brand of fan clutch to Motorcraft?
#32
My bet is still the fan clutch, but the thermostat was also replaced with a new Motorcraft unit so anything is possible.
It behaved fine running at 70 mph east across Wyoming on the fast stuff. Probably wouldn’t even need a fan I am guessing if you’re ramming 40* air into the cooling stack at that speed. It also tolerated some pretty good climbs without the temps getting out of control, but obviously when you’re down to 35 or 40 mph in 3rd gear pulling a long nasty one with a 12k trailer, oh yeah, the fan becomes critical then, so that’s why I am now officially sorry I didn’t get the Motorcraft clutch. Never had an overheat even in hot summer weather with that old one. DID have a pulley wear down and start slipping and making the belt squeal, but a new pulley fixed that.
I sat there for 3 hours until they showed up. Dumped 4 gallons of coolant in and it fired up and behaved fine the last 100 miles to Colorado. No tough hills though. I will say If you see EOT climbing up past 235*F or start to smell coolant, you better pull it over and idle it down NOW unless you want to spray $80 worth of coolant all over. It needed more top off when I got here too. So more like 4.5 gallons it puked.
It behaved fine running at 70 mph east across Wyoming on the fast stuff. Probably wouldn’t even need a fan I am guessing if you’re ramming 40* air into the cooling stack at that speed. It also tolerated some pretty good climbs without the temps getting out of control, but obviously when you’re down to 35 or 40 mph in 3rd gear pulling a long nasty one with a 12k trailer, oh yeah, the fan becomes critical then, so that’s why I am now officially sorry I didn’t get the Motorcraft clutch. Never had an overheat even in hot summer weather with that old one. DID have a pulley wear down and start slipping and making the belt squeal, but a new pulley fixed that.
I sat there for 3 hours until they showed up. Dumped 4 gallons of coolant in and it fired up and behaved fine the last 100 miles to Colorado. No tough hills though. I will say If you see EOT climbing up past 235*F or start to smell coolant, you better pull it over and idle it down NOW unless you want to spray $80 worth of coolant all over. It needed more top off when I got here too. So more like 4.5 gallons it puked.
#33
Plugged fins? Airflow has to pass through the charge air cooler and and AC condensor before it even gets to the radiator. I've had mine apart and pressure washed from the rear side twice since I bought the truck and it makes a world of difference every time I do that.
#34
Is your fan oriented correctly?
I saw another post recently with a photo of an engine fan that was mounted backwards, which is what made me think of the possibility.
I didn't follow the thread, but it appeared to have been an inadvertent error made in the process of replacing the fan clutch.
This isn't to say that you installed YOUR fan backwards. It is just another item to rule out, in the course of figuring out why your engine is not rejecting enough heat.
I saw another post recently with a photo of an engine fan that was mounted backwards, which is what made me think of the possibility.
I didn't follow the thread, but it appeared to have been an inadvertent error made in the process of replacing the fan clutch.
This isn't to say that you installed YOUR fan backwards. It is just another item to rule out, in the course of figuring out why your engine is not rejecting enough heat.
#35
#36
Going to back off my position that the fan clutch was the problem. It kicks on during a cold start and unlocks after 5 minutes or so of high idling to warm the motor up, so at this point I'm doubting it had anything to do with either the clutch, t-stat, or the belt slipping. Cap might have had nothing to do with it either. Externally the front the of the rad is clean (after I cleaned it recently), but crawling around under there and feeling the front of it (as best I could) after pulling over into a rest area a few days later, I seem to have cool spots on it, indicating it's got plugged up spots inside it and probably just needs a new one after 200k miles.
I did also notice the A/C condenser is pretty jammed up with crud, so that probably ain't helping, but I'm going to do something about that next week with the Lisle radiator genie tool. I also drained a 1/2 gallon out of the bottom and poured 2 of these in along with 8 oz of VC-8 to replace what was lost there, then topped the bottle back off. Maybe a couple of these massages along with staying back east here where the terrain isn't nearly as truck busting will help delay the inevitable radiator replacement. Cold spots on the rad and a jammed up AC condenser could affect the fan from working if the hot air isn't blowing onto the bi-metal coil and giving it the bat signal do something, is my thought.
I did also notice the A/C condenser is pretty jammed up with crud, so that probably ain't helping, but I'm going to do something about that next week with the Lisle radiator genie tool. I also drained a 1/2 gallon out of the bottom and poured 2 of these in along with 8 oz of VC-8 to replace what was lost there, then topped the bottle back off. Maybe a couple of these massages along with staying back east here where the terrain isn't nearly as truck busting will help delay the inevitable radiator replacement. Cold spots on the rad and a jammed up AC condenser could affect the fan from working if the hot air isn't blowing onto the bi-metal coil and giving it the bat signal do something, is my thought.
#37
You might have nailed it here. Pulling a travel trailer down to Kentucky last Sunday afternoon it was running a little too warm again IMO in mostly flat (some hills around Cincinnati) and not a hot day. I pulled into a rest area and popped the hood with the oil temp still at 216. Upper rad hose was very soft giving it a squeeze. I thought ah-ha, it must be a bad t-stat because it should be fully open at that engine temp and that upper hose should be very firm. So I swing by the Ford parts counter on the way back and get a new one and install it yesterday. Nothing seemed out of sorts except for that t-stat housing bolts were pretty loose which I immediately noticed. I put it all back together and have taken it for a couple of 15 mile or so test drives, and it does seem to be running cooler, but it's hard to say for certain on such a short test drive without a trailer if anything really got fixed or not. It's not easy to put enough load on the cooling system on a short-ish test drive to really know, but I was seeing oil temps of 210-212 driving empty 65-70 mph on the way back, which to me is higher than it should be. On the way down with the trailer I was seeing 220-225 which started to alarm me a little on the high end there a few times. I could tell something wasn't quite right.
I'm curious now if I had a bad/lazy t-stat compounded by a system that wasn't holding pressure correctly. Is it possible a system not holding pressure could cause the t-stat to not open and pressurize the upper rad hose? I don't know. It goes to the A/C guy Friday. While it's there I'm going to see if he can throw a quick pressure test on the cooling system. That's probably where I should have started. So round and round I go with this one. Frustrating.
I'm curious now if I had a bad/lazy t-stat compounded by a system that wasn't holding pressure correctly. Is it possible a system not holding pressure could cause the t-stat to not open and pressurize the upper rad hose? I don't know. It goes to the A/C guy Friday. While it's there I'm going to see if he can throw a quick pressure test on the cooling system. That's probably where I should have started. So round and round I go with this one. Frustrating.
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