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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 03:45 PM
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Any figure out my trans I did a look up and my door sticker says trans type b but that can't be because the trans in a 3 speed with overdrive not the clark 5 speed also it has the detached turret shifter and I'm trying to buy a new rebuilt trans and shifter but can't figure out what trans I got
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 03:55 PM
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Welcome to FTE.

You have the SROD. Single Rail Over Drive. 4 speed OD transmission. Is yours an aluminum case? Somehow these got called a Clark in some book but they aren't Clark--they are a Ford T&C top loader design, and licensed to Tremec for use in later stuff like Jeeps.

Not sure about those shifter parts, but that transmission and variants were used in light trucks and cars like Mustangs.

You can talk to these folks. Emphasize that you have the detached turret shifter. Other models of this transmission have an iron case with external linkage like the "old days", and one with the shifter on the top cover.

https://cobratransmission.com/SROD-R...d-Parts-Search

https://www.drivetrain.com/parts-cat...-illustrations
(note I don't see the turret shifter but that doesn't mean they don't have parts)

https://transpartswarehouse.com/stan.../srod-rug.html

And others.

You will see this transmission repeated referred to as a "3 speed + OD". It's NOT. It is a 4 speed OD. Up until about 1986 you could get a 3 speed column shifted transmission with an OD attached. It was shifted electrically or way back by a cable--not shifted by the transmission shifter. THAT is a 3 speed + OD.

Does it matter? Only to be clear so you get Ford/Tremec parts instead of Borg Warner parts.

If you have the budget, time etc, you can upgrade to the Mazda M5OD that was offered starting in 1987.

 
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Regarding the 5 speed swap, check out the last couple posts here. It can be an easy swap:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...nsmission.html
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 04:03 PM
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Yeah I appreciate this I was looking at Borg Warner parts I'm looking for a remanufactured transmission the hole thing if there's a way to get a top mount shifter instead of this turret I'd really appreciate someone who could shoot a link price is not to worry my budget is like 5 k I'm also looking for a new flywheel and clutch as well as bell housing and new diff I don't know a lot about this stuff but this truck was a war vets truck and he's gone I bought it from his son and I'm wanting to do a full restoration and rebuild I own a paint shop and specifically only paint motorcycles and old Ford trucksI am pretty seasoned in auto body mechanics just not transmissions and drivelines of this era
 
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Seach "remanufactured Ford SROD":

https://www.ebay.com/itm/292308914596

If you want the top mount, will that top mount come through the floor in a usable spot or will you have to pull out the heater or something?

Your flywheel should be able to be reused--it can be resurfaced. If not, Summit or O'Reilly's or other auto parts should be able to get one for you.

You clutch--ditto the auto parts folks.

Bell housing--why do you need a bell? That will be a salvage yard part--again, search for it by year and model.

 
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Originally Posted by 85e150
Welcome to FTE.

You have the SROD. Single Rail Over Drive. 4 speed OD transmission. Is yours an aluminum case? Somehow these got called a Clark in some book but they aren't Clark--they are a Ford T&C top loader design, and licensed to Tremec for use in later stuff like Jeeps.

If you have the budget, time etc, you can upgrade to the Mazda M5OD that was offered starting in 1987.
The link below is a great reference for the Bullnose 4spd OD transmissions.

https://www.f150hub.com/trans/t170-smod-srod-tod.html

It's basically SMOD, SROD, or TOD. The SMOD and SROD, besides the shifter differences visible from under the truck are easy to identify in the cab as the shifters are back almost touching the bench seat. The later TOD trans has the shifter farther forward, like a T-18, NP435, or M5OD.

The M5OD didn't show up until 1988. The Bricknose started in 1987, but they still had 4spd's for the first year. I believe the F350 diesel and 460 trucks got the ZF5 in 1987, but the rest of the F150/F250 trucks didn't get the 5spd until 1988.
 
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If it was me and needing a transmission swap and knowing the weak SROD / SMOD I would go for the M5OD as it is an all around better transmission with over drive.
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