Is it possible this forum would have a "like" feature
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I probably won't get very many "likes" for saying this, but there are a couple of things I like about the FTE Rep system that are not available with the typical forum "like" system.
1. Uniqueness.
Among the genre of light truck and RV websites online, I've not encountered any other forum that utilizes a "Reputation" system. This makes the FTE forum distinct from the rest of the pack. Some folks might be dismissive of uniqueness for uniqueness sake, but to my mind the uniqueness is very much part of the brand identity that helps distinguish the FTE forum from the many others that exist online which cover the exact same topics about Ford trucks. Amidst those other forums, I'll bet very few have members who have logged over 162,616 posts, like @56panelford has.
How does one decipher what makes FTE... FTE? What black magic lies within these 1's and 0's that encourages a member to contribute an average of nearly 32 posts per day, for the last nearly 14 years? And when one begins pulling the elements of the forum apart, how does one know what unraveling extinguishes the magic? I purposely picked a proponent of change to illustrate the risks of change. A like system would be like everyone else, and everyone else isn't doing too well compared to FTE.
2. Privacy
The Rep system enables me to show another member that I like their post, without announcing to the rest of the world that I like their post. Unlike a "Like" system, which broadcasts exactly who all "liked" a particular post. I don't like that. I sometimes like a member's contribution or opinion or simply their expression of an opinion that I actually disagree with, but am yet impressed with and appreciate their presentation of argument. If I "Like" their post, and everyone else sees that I "Liked" their post, the presumption would naturally be that I agreed with their post... when in fact, I rather only appreciated the structure of their argument, or the depth of information they contributed to make their point... a point that I may entirely disagree with... but I will rep them all the same because they stood and delivered.
What the Rep system does is give that member public credit for being a meaningfully contributing member... without identifying what exact posts garnered their reputation... and without outing the members who vouched for their reputation... except to the member who received the reps. Likes don't do this.
3. Self Control
This may not relate to everyone, or to anyone, but for me, the Rep system has served as a measure of self control. I try to ensure that my post count never exceeds my point count. The rep system has helped impose a numerical metric of self control, that has helped me to reduce cluttering up threads with unnecessary comments or banter, because my self imposed restriction is that my post count should not exceed my rep count in points. That goal gives me pause before pressing "Post Quick Reply", causing me to consider whether or not the post I'm about to send will really help someone, or really offer a useful perspective, or really provide sought for information.
I'm not sure whether or not "likes" can be as useful as a measure of self control, because "likes" are often bestowed on clever quips in the immediate context, rather than useful content that will inure to the benefit of many members for the future to come. This opinion is based on the many other websites that have "Like" systems in place. I have no other comparisons of forums that have a "Rep" system in place, because FTE stands alone as the only forum I am personally aware of that has the Rep system.
One can be "like" everyone else.... or be unique.
1. Uniqueness.
Among the genre of light truck and RV websites online, I've not encountered any other forum that utilizes a "Reputation" system. This makes the FTE forum distinct from the rest of the pack. Some folks might be dismissive of uniqueness for uniqueness sake, but to my mind the uniqueness is very much part of the brand identity that helps distinguish the FTE forum from the many others that exist online which cover the exact same topics about Ford trucks. Amidst those other forums, I'll bet very few have members who have logged over 162,616 posts, like @56panelford has.
How does one decipher what makes FTE... FTE? What black magic lies within these 1's and 0's that encourages a member to contribute an average of nearly 32 posts per day, for the last nearly 14 years? And when one begins pulling the elements of the forum apart, how does one know what unraveling extinguishes the magic? I purposely picked a proponent of change to illustrate the risks of change. A like system would be like everyone else, and everyone else isn't doing too well compared to FTE.
2. Privacy
The Rep system enables me to show another member that I like their post, without announcing to the rest of the world that I like their post. Unlike a "Like" system, which broadcasts exactly who all "liked" a particular post. I don't like that. I sometimes like a member's contribution or opinion or simply their expression of an opinion that I actually disagree with, but am yet impressed with and appreciate their presentation of argument. If I "Like" their post, and everyone else sees that I "Liked" their post, the presumption would naturally be that I agreed with their post... when in fact, I rather only appreciated the structure of their argument, or the depth of information they contributed to make their point... a point that I may entirely disagree with... but I will rep them all the same because they stood and delivered.
What the Rep system does is give that member public credit for being a meaningfully contributing member... without identifying what exact posts garnered their reputation... and without outing the members who vouched for their reputation... except to the member who received the reps. Likes don't do this.
3. Self Control
This may not relate to everyone, or to anyone, but for me, the Rep system has served as a measure of self control. I try to ensure that my post count never exceeds my point count. The rep system has helped impose a numerical metric of self control, that has helped me to reduce cluttering up threads with unnecessary comments or banter, because my self imposed restriction is that my post count should not exceed my rep count in points. That goal gives me pause before pressing "Post Quick Reply", causing me to consider whether or not the post I'm about to send will really help someone, or really offer a useful perspective, or really provide sought for information.
I'm not sure whether or not "likes" can be as useful as a measure of self control, because "likes" are often bestowed on clever quips in the immediate context, rather than useful content that will inure to the benefit of many members for the future to come. This opinion is based on the many other websites that have "Like" systems in place. I have no other comparisons of forums that have a "Rep" system in place, because FTE stands alone as the only forum I am personally aware of that has the Rep system.
One can be "like" everyone else.... or be unique.
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But I've always loved the side of the road signs stretched across acres of agriculture along 99, 101, and 5. "Feeling Tired?" "Aren't you hungry?" "How does a bowl of hot soup sound?" "Anderson's Split Pea Soup Inn 5 miles ahead"
Sequential signage like that always got my attention, but the most recent series really made my day. My week even.
And to bring this anecdote from cryptic to relevant, that is where a "like" system can kind of be a let down. The appreciation is all bunched up under one sign. As @zstvincent so aptly put it... "I'd much rather see someone type out they agree but in their own words compared to an icon with a bunch of numbers next to it."
Each member typing out his/her own words of agreement... is like reading a series of sequential signs along the highway, with each separate message building up to a conclusive whole... or perhaps an eye opening, mind changing debate.
Such as what has happened just now... in this very thread.
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