Settling for the gasser?
#152
Not sure where these dealers are that have 6.2s only as unicorns. My dealer has 66 6.2s in stock and 59 6.7s at this moment.
https://www.prestonford.com/search/new-f-250-super-duty-hurlock-md/?cy=21643&tp=new&md=101
https://www.prestonford.com/search/new-f-250-super-duty-hurlock-md/?cy=21643&tp=new&md=101
Lithia Ford in Missoula Montana.
Has 9 2019 F350s. All with 6.7s and most of these are Lariats, King Ranches and Limiteds
Has 12 2019 F250s. 9 are with 6.7s and the 3 6.2s are work trucks
Bell McCall Ford in Hamilton Montana didn't have any F350s. (Gonna have to call them and find out why)
In fact I checked your dealer Preston Ford and he had 44 F350s
only 11 had 6.2s and 9 of those had service bodies on them and the other three had NO bed. All 11 were work trucks. None suitable for non work purchase. Your dealer didn't even have a useable F350 Unicorn, lol
#153
My two closest dealers.
Lithia Ford in Missoula Montana.
Has 9 2019 F350s. All with 6.7s and most of these are Lariats, King Ranches and Limiteds
Has 12 2019 F250s. 9 are with 6.7s and the 3 6.2s are work trucks
Bell McCall Ford in Hamilton Montana didn't have any F350s. (Gonna have to call them and find out why)
In fact I checked your dealer Preston Ford and he had 44 F350s
only 11 had 6.2s and 9 of those had service bodies on them and the other three had NO bed. All 11 were work trucks. None suitable for non work purchase. Your dealer didn't even have a useable F350 Unicorn, lol
Lithia Ford in Missoula Montana.
Has 9 2019 F350s. All with 6.7s and most of these are Lariats, King Ranches and Limiteds
Has 12 2019 F250s. 9 are with 6.7s and the 3 6.2s are work trucks
Bell McCall Ford in Hamilton Montana didn't have any F350s. (Gonna have to call them and find out why)
In fact I checked your dealer Preston Ford and he had 44 F350s
only 11 had 6.2s and 9 of those had service bodies on them and the other three had NO bed. All 11 were work trucks. None suitable for non work purchase. Your dealer didn't even have a useable F350 Unicorn, lol
#154
Ok I see your point in the 350s. I was looking at the 250s where most of the gassers would be found. Not many gas 350s to be sure in stock. My closest dealer only stocks from 1 to 3 Super Duties total at any given time lol, a very small dealer. Preston is in the top 50 in Ford sales, or so they say. Good inventory in F series and decent pricing. My son bought an F150 there in April and then I bought my 250 there a month later.
#156
When I was looking for my truck I found it hard to find a 6.2 on several lots. I was told by 2 different dealerships that they had a hard time keeping them in stock. The gas trucks were just selling faster then the diesels. Could be dealership bull****, but who knows.
I own a 6.2 and its fantastic. I have nothing against the 6.7 or the 6.7 owners. I just know that I preferred the 6.2 since it would handle the towing that I needed it for plus I got to look around for $8000+ in more creature comfort upgrades since I passed on the 6.7
I own a 6.2 and its fantastic. I have nothing against the 6.7 or the 6.7 owners. I just know that I preferred the 6.2 since it would handle the towing that I needed it for plus I got to look around for $8000+ in more creature comfort upgrades since I passed on the 6.7
#157
The reason dealers keep the expensive loaded trucks in stock is for one simple reason, profits. Most buyers purchase on impulse. If you don't believe me ask a sales person how many people were in for service or just drove by to look and ended up buying.
There is a hell of a lot more profit in a loaded diesel Limited, King Ranch, etc compared to a XL or XLT.
There is a hell of a lot more profit in a loaded diesel Limited, King Ranch, etc compared to a XL or XLT.
#158
It makes you wonder who the dealers are targeting. The 9 F350s at Lithia in Missoula were 70 and 80 thousand dollar trucks. Limiteds, Lariats, King Ranches all with 6.7s. Now these aren't trucks you buy to haul your caterpillar around to do grading work or you go beat up on a job site. These, it would seem to me, are well off or retired people trucks, large 5th wheel trucks or status trucks. These aren't even for the most part, lift them, put on big tires and desmog them kids trucks, cause there too much darn money. They sell a lot of them, IMHO, because it's all they carry. Which goes back to the they carry what they make the most money off of theory. Now I am retired, do okay, have a small trailer and don't need a diesel, the 6.2 gasser is great. But if I full timed with a large heavy 5er and we spent a lot of time out, I would probably go with a Lariat diesel. As I mentioned earlier it's easier to sell someone more truck than they need than less AND people will buy what you show them. If everything you've got is a diesel, they'll buy a diesel. But that fact, in and of itself, doesn't mean a 6.2 gasser wouldn't work for you.
#159
I was thinking of the hours I actually towed the past couple of years and they barely added up to around 40 hours per year. This in itself is justification to not buy a diesel. The rest of the time it is a grocery getter and school bus for my kids. So this pushed me tight into ordering a 6.2 today .
#160
I was thinking of the hours I actually towed the past couple of years and they barely added up to around 40 hours per year. This in itself is justification to not buy a diesel. The rest of the time it is a grocery getter and school bus for my kids. So this pushed me tight into ordering a 6.2 today .
#161
Just for fun I asked my employees who have to drive both diesel and gas pickups for my businesses, which they prefer. Unanimously they said the gas pickups, and they only drive the diesels out of necessity once the gassers all gone. For me its not even a contest, each time i have to drive a diesel I curse it, and try my best to not be stuck in one of them.
Which is why the trucks in the future will only be gas engines, despite how much they have to tow. The dealer I use carries about 1/4 diesels to 3/4 gas pickups in stock, because they sell mostly gas engines.
Which is why the trucks in the future will only be gas engines, despite how much they have to tow. The dealer I use carries about 1/4 diesels to 3/4 gas pickups in stock, because they sell mostly gas engines.
#162
But if your driving a gas motor in a platform that created for the diesel, why not get the f150 with 3.5? 13k conventional towing capacity, 21mpg combined..wow. I'm sure its cheaper than an equally equipped super duty also. What is the f250 conventional towing capacity with the 6.2? Under 13k unless you get the 4.30...but my god that would get what? 10mpg unloaded?
The F-250 pulls like a boss around the grades of Giddings, Schulenberg Austin area with ease. Tundra not so much. Don't worry about being pushed around with X-winds, Class 8 trucks etc. As I told my dealer when upgrading tractor, just cause it can don't mean yah should.
So a 150 may handle 13k, just can it can don't mean one should. Marketing is a powerful Bernays effect on us all.
My SD stays parked most time, we use the 4Rnr as our DD.
When Goldie does go to work, I'm ah grinning
MPGs empty? bout 13.6 to 14.8 or so. Bout same as on Tundra. And don't expect great MPGs out of a heavy work truck.
When they make a Prius able to tow 12k safely on a long wheel base I may be all in...lol...though I'd prefer another Tundra crew max with 6.75' bed.
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#163
But if your driving a gas motor in a platform that created for the diesel, why not get the f150 with 3.5? 13k conventional towing capacity, 21mpg combined..wow. I'm sure its cheaper than an equally equipped super duty also. What is the f250 conventional towing capacity with the 6.2? Under 13k unless you get the 4.30...but my god that would get what? 10mpg unloaded?
#164
Just for fun I asked my employees who have to drive both diesel and gas pickups for my businesses, which they prefer. Unanimously they said the gas pickups, and they only drive the diesels out of necessity once the gassers all gone. For me its not even a contest, each time i have to drive a diesel I curse it, and try my best to not be stuck in one of them.
Which is why the trucks in the future will only be gas engines.
Which is why the trucks in the future will only be gas engines.
#165
Morleyz - I've got the same type setup here. My F250 is 75% commuter truck and 25% 5th wheel hauler with minimal elevation issues 98% of the time. Yeah, the higher the grade the slower she goes but does anyone really need to pull 10K+ LBS over 55MPH anyhow? I generally give myself a little head start by leaning on the gas a bit coming into a big hill vs. punching it later when I'm slowed down. My wife got a little nervous about the engine RPMs wrapping up a bit in 3rd gear but the truck has plenty of pulling power when I need it. I haven't put it to the test by towing in higher elevations (>5K FT), but I think she'll be fine most of the time.
As much as I would have liked to buy a diesel for the torque, I just couldn't justify the expense. $10K added to the purchase price and higher maintenance costs put me off too much. Did you know there's as much as an 88 cent per gallon difference between Regular gasoline and Diesel in Texas?!! Now multiply that times that big 48 gallon tank. If you fill up once per week, the Diesel owner is going to pay over $2,000.00 more per year for fuel - Yikes!
Gas Buddy
As much as I would have liked to buy a diesel for the torque, I just couldn't justify the expense. $10K added to the purchase price and higher maintenance costs put me off too much. Did you know there's as much as an 88 cent per gallon difference between Regular gasoline and Diesel in Texas?!! Now multiply that times that big 48 gallon tank. If you fill up once per week, the Diesel owner is going to pay over $2,000.00 more per year for fuel - Yikes!
Gas Buddy
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