1987 E-150 LX Cargo Van: No power to fuel pumps
#4
I check all the ground connections I could find, no Issues. I did find a bad connection on the master cylinder, that solved the minor Issue with the brake warning light on my dash.
This van has been parked In a garage for the past 15 years In California, so I have very little rust or corrosion to deal with.
This van has been parked In a garage for the past 15 years In California, so I have very little rust or corrosion to deal with.
While there might not be a lot of visible rust/corrosion of the body/suspension parts the nature of vehicle electrical connectors makes them very susceptible to this condition---they're so small and can absorb moisture that never evaporates back out. Because the contacts are so small even a little corrosion can cause problems like you describe.
I once had an '88 E150 that was driven daily have a failed fuel pump connector without any warning. After a $450 tow bill the repair shop found the condition almost immediately, cleaned the connection, added a dab of dielectric grease and the van restarted immediately, It ran reliably for the next 4 years.
The individual connector pins can be cleaned very well using muriatic acid VERY CAREFULLY (with eye & skin protection!!!) with a cotton swab and applying it to the metal pins.
HTH
#7
I just pulled pulled the front fuel tank this morning. -- https://imgur.com/a/1bf13Ba
Just curious if you're working from a schematic for these electrical issues? (I don't have any experience with multi-pump & tank set ups, just curious.)
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#9
I have no electrical schematic, I am using a test lamp with very little electrical knowledge. On Tuesday I posted that I had no power to the (Fuel Tank Selector Valve)-(Fuel Tank/Gauge Selector switch) and the (Inertia fuel shutoff switch), but I forgot to add that I do have power to the Fuel Pump Relay. The red and black wire get power to the Fuel Pump Relay when I turn on the Ignition switch, should the other red wire have power also?
Unfortunately I'm not familiar with your fuel system and don't have any schematics for your year---I find those I need for Ford through eBay. Here's one for a 1986 E150/E250 you might consider having if you'll be keeping this van and DIY repairs.
You might also ask questions in the Electrical & Wiring Sub-Forum too---could be a lot of members there have the exact info or help you need. Link: Electrical Forums
HTH
#10
You will only have power for one second each time the key is turned to the run position.
The EEC (PCM) grounds the fuel pump relay coil for one second to do this.
To trouble shoot the fuel pumps circuit you need to ground pin #6 of the self-test plug and turn the key to the run position.
If the fuel pumps run with pin #6 shorted you may have lost the small black wire with a green stripe ground wire at the NEG post of the battery.
If this ground wire is OK you may have a bad EEC (PCM) computer.
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The EEC (PCM) grounds the fuel pump relay coil for one second to do this.
To trouble shoot the fuel pumps circuit you need to ground pin #6 of the self-test plug and turn the key to the run position.
If the fuel pumps run with pin #6 shorted you may have lost the small black wire with a green stripe ground wire at the NEG post of the battery.
If this ground wire is OK you may have a bad EEC (PCM) computer.
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#12
#14
Nothing looks stock for a 1987 5.0L E-150.
There are no wires going to the fuel tank selector valve on a stock van unless it had a 7.5L engine.
The fuel pump relay is not wired with those colors on a stock van.
The two red wires are in the wrong place on the relay socket to turn on the selected fuel pump on a stock van.
Someone has completely rewired the fuel system on this van, changed the type of fuel valve.
So without knowing how it is wired I can not help you any further.
There are no wires going to the fuel tank selector valve on a stock van unless it had a 7.5L engine.
The fuel pump relay is not wired with those colors on a stock van.
The two red wires are in the wrong place on the relay socket to turn on the selected fuel pump on a stock van.
Someone has completely rewired the fuel system on this van, changed the type of fuel valve.
So without knowing how it is wired I can not help you any further.