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Actually on the standard ISO test S&B has a 99.56% filter rate on their oiled filters and a 99.76% rate on dry paper filters. They have this information available to you on their website. Also i saw that S&B was in the process of getting their kits for our truck Carb Certified. So these filters work just as good as a factory paper filter while actually improving the turbo efficiency. Ford uses what they do because of costs. Its cheap for them to use those filters and it stops everything you throw at it including the air coming in.
There is a big difference in how much dirt gets into your engine using your data.
Lets say over the first 100,000 miles of driving your engine sucks a hundred pounds of dust through the intake. My good ol' paper air filter will allow 0.24 pounds of dust to pass through the filter element and into the engine's combustion chamber. The S&B filter will allow 0.44 pounds of dirt through the filter element. That is a whooping increase of 83% more dirt into the engine.
Stick with stock, both filtration media and plumbing.
There is a big difference in how much dirt gets into your engine using your data.
Lets say over the first 100,000 miles of driving your engine sucks a hundred pounds of dust through the intake. My good ol' paper air filter will allow 0.24 pounds of dust to pass through the filter element and into the engine's combustion chamber. The S&B filter will allow 0.44 pounds of dirt through the filter element. That is a whooping increase of 83% more dirt into the engine.
Stick with stock, both filtration media and plumbing.
Well i do oil samples on my truck and one section on the report will show you silica and other types of contaminates from dirt. On my stock airbox and filter it was the exact same as my oiled filter. That means no extra dirt is working its way into the engine that is noticeable. Im in the midwest with farm fields and gravel roads so its pretty dusty. I clean my filter every 15k. I also use a pre filter to catch the bugs and big stuff. Now if you buy an ebay filter im sure you are risking your truck. But S&B clearly states your warranty and engine are protected after install of their kit and proper servicing.
It’s not S&B’s determination of continuing warranty protection. It’s Ford Motor Company’s call on what is in violation.
Ford clearly states their determination of warranty violations.
What a person decides to do with their truck is their business. No one can tell a person how to enjoy their possessions. But, it is Fords decision on what to cover an issue since they will be paying the bill. If you have an issue down the road, don’t be upset if the bill to fix it lands in your mailbox.
I expect to replace my air filter element annually.
S&B replacement paper element $65
Motorcraft replacement $45
Guess which one I'll use?
After seeing and experiencing issues with a K&N "rechargeable" filter, I'll never go that route again. If the S&B fluid is anything like K&N's, it slowly turns the interior surface of vacuum lines to mush.
For the lazy:
After completing the installation, the truck is tested again on the dyno. The comparison of the before and after dyno runs shows us that the cold-air upgrade produces a 4hp and 31–lb-ft torque improvement for the 6.7L Power Stroke engine over the stock airbox.
At 15k my stock filter was shot. Dealer wanted $90 so I went online and ordered the S&B. Some says there’s 0 gains, some say there’s no way it could be better than fords factory equipment and there might be some truth to that. My primary reason is that you can clean and reuse the filter. If it comes with +4 hp or .5 mph gain then I’ll take it but not expecting it. There’s some smart guys on this forum and what I keep reading is it’s worthwhile if you doing further deletes/engine work. I have and I’m pleased all around.
Stewy,
How did your install go? What’s the noise level change? Noticeable? Throttle response? Acceleration? Etc?
CBE
Hey man, haven't thrown it on yet. The weather has been crappy here, so I'm waiting for a dry stretch. Its killing me seeing the box in my garage! I hope to throw it on this Sunday, weather looks good.
No experience on the 6.7L with one, had one on my 5.9L Cummins, great intake. Quality, fit, finish, ease of cleaning, etc... Will look at S&B again when my 18' rolls in later this month.
They are out of Fontana CA so if your in the area, you can save some shipping and pick one up, order ahead and ask for pick up
I expect to replace my air filter element annually.
S&B replacement paper element $65
Motorcraft replacement $45
Guess which one I'll use?
After seeing and experiencing issues with a K&N "rechargeable" filter, I'll never go that route again. If the S&B fluid is anything like K&N's, it slowly turns the interior surface of vacuum lines to mush.
For what it's worth, (I know not much to those whose mind is already made up), but I've been happy with K&N's. I've been running them in my vehicles for years without issue, two of which have 270,000+ miles and the third has 241,000 miles. I began putting a thin coat of clear di-electric grease inside the intake track years ago to see if any dirt/dust was making it past the filter. I can't see anything on a white paper towel when I wipe the grease off before replacing it. I clean my filters about every 15K miles or when they begin to look dirty. To each his own, but I like the concept and they have worked fine for me.
For what it's worth, (I know not much to those whose mind is already made up), but I've been happy with K&N's. I've been running them in my vehicles for years without issue, two of which have 270,000+ miles and the third has 241,000 miles. I began putting a thin coat of clear di-electric grease inside the intake track years ago to see if any dirt/dust was making it past the filter. I can't see anything on a white paper towel when I wipe the grease off before replacing it. I clean my filters about every 15K miles or when they begin to look dirty. To each his own, but I like the concept and they have worked fine for me.
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