Engine tag Found!!! Need help deciphering
#31
No I'm going to need everything.
Previous user had it on a 428 with vented valve cover breathers and had blocked off the rear.
I'll be using it on a 406 of my own build (428 block, 427 crank) with a set of the old chrome pent roof valve covers with no holes for oil fill.
Thanks for the links, that's cheaper than the last one I found on eBay.
Now I just need to get some other projects finished to have time and funds to work on the car.
Previous user had it on a 428 with vented valve cover breathers and had blocked off the rear.
I'll be using it on a 406 of my own build (428 block, 427 crank) with a set of the old chrome pent roof valve covers with no holes for oil fill.
Thanks for the links, that's cheaper than the last one I found on eBay.
Now I just need to get some other projects finished to have time and funds to work on the car.
#33
1958/64 FE engines have rounded valve covers without holes for smog valve/oil cap. These engines have an oil fill tube at the right front.
Pic from 1949/59 car catalog showing rounded valve covers, oil fill tube:
#34
Hey all. Thanks alot i appreciate all of the clues and tips and detailed information.
Perhaps these photos of the back of the intake and these numbers can help decipher further? So, so far its seeming like someone just swapped on an older intake..... Interesting. Im looking to replace it with an aluminum edelbrock as the intake gaskets are leaking anyhow.
Perhaps these photos of the back of the intake and these numbers can help decipher further? So, so far its seeming like someone just swapped on an older intake..... Interesting. Im looking to replace it with an aluminum edelbrock as the intake gaskets are leaking anyhow.
#36
ORIGIONAL
so the mystery " what is it" allegid 352 in my 64 F250 which I know was swapped in May now be able to be identified. The P.O. or someone. Used a wooden gate bolt latch to the intake for a throttle return bracket. I just went to replace that wth somethiby new and found the engine tag sandwiched under it. Need a little help deciphering!! All of the 65+ code indexes I've found do not show numbers. In the 700 series. They skip right over them. Any help ?
#37
Awesome!!!!! So mystery almost solved lol. I now need to attempt to find the casting numbers on the block eh? Block and heads likely from a 65 Truck - Intake manifold from a 64 Thunderbird. The plot thickens!!!! Cant wait to get this intake off. When I do that, i can simply completely abandon that road draft tube correct and continue using my PCV port from the passenger valve cover to the Carb?
#38
FE pent roof shaped valve covers introduced in 1965, used thru 1976, have holes for oil cap/smog valve.
1958/64 FE engines have rounded valve covers without holes for smog valve/oil cap. These engines have an oil fill tube at the right front.
Pic from 1949/59 car catalog showing rounded valve covers, oil fill tube:
1958/64 FE engines have rounded valve covers without holes for smog valve/oil cap. These engines have an oil fill tube at the right front.
Pic from 1949/59 car catalog showing rounded valve covers, oil fill tube:
Only thing I ever seen the tall pent roof valve covers come on where 427 high performance engines, early ones didn't have oil cap or pcv holes and used a road draft tube from the intake manifold, not sure when they stared making them with holes for pcv and oil fill.
#39
Wrong ones, not sure what the official name is for those it the pic, but we always called them the early baldies.
Only thing I ever seen the tall pent roof valve covers come on where 427 high performance engines, early ones didn't have oil cap or pcv holes and used a road draft tube from the intake manifold, not sure when they stared making them with holes for pcv and oil fill.
Only thing I ever seen the tall pent roof valve covers come on where 427 high performance engines, early ones didn't have oil cap or pcv holes and used a road draft tube from the intake manifold, not sure when they stared making them with holes for pcv and oil fill.
1961/64 rounded valve covers.
Painted blue or chrome with FORD embossed on them: 352 (Custom/Galaxie/Galaxie 500/Galaxie 500XL).
Painted gold or chrome with THUNDERBIRD embossed on them: 390 (Custom/Galaxie/Galaxie 500/Galaxie 500XL & Thunderbird).
Painted red or chrome with MERCURY embossed on them: 390.
Chrome (no lettering): 406 & 427. I don't recall what colors the 406 & 427 covers were painted.
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Pic: Pent roof shaped valve covers. 1965/66 are plain, 1967/76 have Powered by Ford embossed on them.
#40
ILL P-2559 is actually an early drawing as there is no name stamped in the rocker covers. Also has GEN and Two-Stage fuel pump.
The setup on the BIRD intake (on truck now) was also a CLOSED SYSTEM as the breather cap has an inlet for fresh air drawn from the ACL
If you want the 4V, it would be better (IMO) to retain what you have and retrofit the correct PCV System.
Below is a factory photo of a 1965 LT 352-
The setup on the BIRD intake (on truck now) was also a CLOSED SYSTEM as the breather cap has an inlet for fresh air drawn from the ACL
If you want the 4V, it would be better (IMO) to retain what you have and retrofit the correct PCV System.
Below is a factory photo of a 1965 LT 352-
#41
My 1960/64 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog is the original bound paper edition. I also have a 1960/68 loose leaf paper edition.
So, this is a 332/352 from a 1958/59 Ford, or 352 from a 1958/59 Thunderbird.
#42
As I said in post #33, the pic is from the 1949/59 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog. This is the only catalog I have on a C/D that I can post rounded valve cover pics from.
My 1960/64 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog is the original loose leaf paper edition.
So, this is a 332/352 from a 1958/59 Ford, or 352 from a 1958/59 Thunderbird.
Another poster mentioned baldies and I was referring to the early FE covers.
#43
Most of the 406 valve covers I've seen where rounded type with a decal stating 406 cubic inch.
The only two original cars I've seen with the tall chrome pent roof covers that didn't have holes where a 63 1/2 427 equipped Galaxie and a 63 1/3 427 equipped Mercury Marauder.
I'm assuming they where only used for 63 1/2 - 64, as your pic shows 65 - 68 had holes.
The 66 -67 390GT - 428 chrome covers I had where shorter and had a rolled bead embossed in them, the 68 - 69 chrome covers I had where more rounded with Powered By Ford embossed in them.
The only two original cars I've seen with the tall chrome pent roof covers that didn't have holes where a 63 1/2 427 equipped Galaxie and a 63 1/3 427 equipped Mercury Marauder.
I'm assuming they where only used for 63 1/2 - 64, as your pic shows 65 - 68 had holes.
The 66 -67 390GT - 428 chrome covers I had where shorter and had a rolled bead embossed in them, the 68 - 69 chrome covers I had where more rounded with Powered By Ford embossed in them.
#44
I've never seen any 1958/64 Ford, Thunderbird or 1971/(edit 1961)/64 Mercury with pent roofed shaped valve covers.
I've owned a 1959 Edsel 332, two 1960 Edsel's with 352's, 1963 T-Bird Sports Roadster 390 with 3 deuces, dozens of 1962/64 Galaxie 500/500 XL's including a 1963 Galaxie 500 ragtop 406 with dual quads and a T-10 4 speed.
Heads and valve covers can be swapped, but it's not that EZ to swap the blocks, because Ford changed the bolt pattern in 1965 where the rubber insulators bolt on.
To install a 1958/64 FE in a 1965 and later F100/350 or car, adapters have to be made to bolt the insulators to the block.
I've owned a 1959 Edsel 332, two 1960 Edsel's with 352's, 1963 T-Bird Sports Roadster 390 with 3 deuces, dozens of 1962/64 Galaxie 500/500 XL's including a 1963 Galaxie 500 ragtop 406 with dual quads and a T-10 4 speed.
Heads and valve covers can be swapped, but it's not that EZ to swap the blocks, because Ford changed the bolt pattern in 1965 where the rubber insulators bolt on.
To install a 1958/64 FE in a 1965 and later F100/350 or car, adapters have to be made to bolt the insulators to the block.
#45
As I said the only original engines I ever seen the tall pent roof valve covers on where 427's.
The Galaxie had been worked on but the owner was meticulous about keeping it as original as possible.
The Mercury was a low mile original with one spinner hub cap missing and a cigarette lighter burn mark in the seat. that was years ago and they only wanted $2500 for the car, I was young and dumb and thought the car looked ugly, the engine, T10 and 3.89's where worth more than that even back then.
I've kicked myself more than once for not buying it.
Google pentroof valve covers. Tony D Branda has reproductions with and without the holes.
The Galaxie had been worked on but the owner was meticulous about keeping it as original as possible.
The Mercury was a low mile original with one spinner hub cap missing and a cigarette lighter burn mark in the seat. that was years ago and they only wanted $2500 for the car, I was young and dumb and thought the car looked ugly, the engine, T10 and 3.89's where worth more than that even back then.
I've kicked myself more than once for not buying it.
Google pentroof valve covers. Tony D Branda has reproductions with and without the holes.